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CONTRADICTIONS BETWEEN THE HADITHS AND THE QURAN

We shall study in this chapter the contradictions between the Quran, the basic and unique source of Islam, and the fabricated hadiths. When we observe the fatal consequences of the adoption of the hadiths as a source of religion, we shall see better the importance of going back to the Quran. We have quoted here the hadiths from the most famous book on hadiths to illustrate those that are openly in contradiction with the Quran; you can imagine the hadiths contained in the lesser known compilations.

The fact that these are hadiths that plainly contradict the verses of the Quran is enough to reject them all and our return to the Quran for our religious concepts. There are thousands of hadiths that present glaring contradictions with the Quran. We shall confine ourselves by quoting only ten. As we proceed, we shall witness many such inconsistencies.

Now, how do we know if the Quran is the Word of God? Some may come up with the answer: “It is said so in the Quran.” However, if there crop up persons pointing to other books ascribed to God, what shall be our argument?

We shall be able to assert that the Quran is the Word of God after examining and making an assessment of its contents. To discuss the truth of God’s message has to do with the intrinsic contents of the Quran. If we examine the hadiths with the same logic, we can see if they deserve to be a source of God’s revelation or not. As we discuss the degree of truth by the established religion, by referring to the very contents of the Quran, so we must examine the argument that hadiths must be considered a source of religion by referring to the body of hadiths. We have examined the Quran and the hadiths from the point of view of their respective intrinsic values, which would enable us to assess how far they could constitute a source for Islam. The hadiths we shall be examining now will make clear their reliability and truthfulness as a source of Islam.

The hadiths quoted here are those acknowledged reliable by prominent hadith scholars. We have left out those denied by them, as they deemed them not dependable. Of the latter, the following examples may be quoted: “When God desired to create Himself, He made the horse run and let it perspire; and out of this perspiration He created Himself” or “God created the angels from the hairs of His armpits and chest” or “God’s eyes were sore, the angels came to pay Him a visit” or “I saw God in my dream. He was a handsome young man with long hair. He wore a green garment and had golden sandals on His feet” (see Defense of the Hadiths Ibn Kutayba).

It is true that the prominent hadith scholars denied such fabricated hadiths and ignored them. What we shall presently see are the hadiths quoted by the most reliable, trustworthy and dependable hadith books, and we shall observe that the truth and falsehoods are inextricably mixed and any effort to tell them apart would be fruitless. Moreover, given the fact that the Quran is self-sufficient and complete in every respect, such an effort would be futile.

82 – Why do they not consider the Quran? If it were from other than God, they would have found in it many contradictions.
4 The Women, 82

9 – Surely, We have sent down a Reminder, And We are protecting It.
15 Al Hijr, 9

Verse 4 of the Sura The Women states that the source of Islam embodies no contradictions. By such a statement God confirms the truthfulness of the Quran as well as indicating how the book to constitute the source of religion should be. The very existence of the hadiths that contradict the Quran is proof that they cannot be considered as a source of Islam. Verse 15 Al Hijr 9 explicitly states that the Quran is a guarded and protected book. We shall see presently and in the following three chapters that the hadiths are not protected and that the whole body of them has become a hotchpotch of invented sayings.

By witnessing the regrettable consequences of the acceptance of the hadiths as a source of religion, we shall better see the absolute necessity of returning to the only source of Islam, the Quran, free from all contradictions and a guarded and protected Book.

1) GOD’S CALF?
2) GOD SHAKES HANDS?
3) SHOULD RENEGADES BE PUT TO DEATH?
4) SUFFERING FOR TEARS
5) GOOD WOMEN AND CROWS
6) SPELL AND PROPHET
7) IS A WILL PERMISSIBLE?
8 ) PAINTERS GREATEST SINNERS?
9) WEARING GOLD ITEMS AND SILK GARMENTS?
10) FISH CAUSE OF EARTHQUAKE?

1) GOD’S CALF?
11 – …there is nothing whatever like unto Him…
42 Consultation, 11

Hadith: God will show His calf to the Prophets to prove His identity in the world hereafter.
(Sahihi Muslim, Bukhari, Hanbal)

We must draw your attention to the books we have quoted from: books written by Muslim and Bukhari, considered the most reliable and dependable ones. According to the mentality of transmitters of traditions, those who would deny the truth of this tradition would be declared infidels, while those who would believe it, would be true Muslims. There is no need to dwell further on this when we are reminded by the verses that declare that there is nothing whatever like unto Him which will automatically negate it.

2) GOD SHAKES HANDS?
4 – “…and there is none like unto him.”
112 Absoluteness, 4

Hadith: “God talked to me and shook hands with me. He placed His hand in between my scapulas and I heard the coldness of His hand in the middle of my chest.”
Hanbal

The hadith without any metaphorical meaning gives shape to God and ascribes fingers to Him and coldness to His hand. If the word ‘hand’ had a symbolical meaning and was not associated in the mind with the concrete hand of man, it might be admissible. For instance when one says: “Everybody is in God’s hands” would connote that everything depends on Him, that He has overall control of everything. But in this context, the hand is the concrete hand of man. In the above text, the hand and fingers to which coldness is attributed cannot possible have a metaphorical connotation. What’s more, the saying is crowned with the shaking of hands of God and man. Would the transmitter of the hadith who believes in the literal meaning of this or the person who observes the falsehood in the invented hadith and deems the Quran self-sufficient, be a truthful Muslim?

3) SHOULD RENEGADES BE PUT TO DEATH?
256 – There shall be no compulsion in religion.
2 The Cow, 256

Hadith: “Kill the renegade!”
Nesei, Bukhari.

There has been no end to murders due to the work of the hadith fabricators who tried to overrule the injunctions of the Quran. Such hadiths were responsible for legitimizing the massacres committed by extremist organizations. If you were among the defenders of the Sunni sects, your raising objections to these murders would be in vain. Evidence to justify this are embodied in the Sunni books of hadiths and in the books of the sectarians.

4) SUFFERING FOR TEARS
38 – No soul bears sins of another soul.
53 The Star, 38

Hadith: “The dead will suffer for the tears of his/her family will shed for him/her.”
Bukhari, Jemiz

This hadith, unreasonable and inconsistent with the intrinsic logic of the Quran, is an illustrative example of a fabricated hadith.

5) GOOD WOMEN AND CROWS
195 – Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female: you are members one of another.
3 The Family of Imran, 195

Hadith: ”A good woman among women is like a white crow among one hundred crows.”
Bukhari

While the Quran opens the path for men and women produces good deeds without any discrimination between them, the hadith bars the way to women. The woman issue is one of the subjects about which there is no end to invented hadiths. (For a detailed account, see Chapters 21 & 22.)

6) SPELL AND PROPHET
8 – The wicked say. “You follow none other than a man bewitched.”
25 The Distinguisher, 8

Hadith: ”A spell was cast on the Prophet in Medina. He went around dazed.”
Bukhari, Hanbal

To the objection raised by Muhammad Abduh and Mu’tezila to this hadith, Muhammad Abu Shhebe provided the following argument: “If Abduh denied the hadith related to the spell cast over Muhammad, many scholars like Al Mazrii, al Hattabi, Cadi Iyaz, Ibn Taymiyya, Ibn ul Kayyým Ibn Kathir, En Nevevi, Ibn Hajar, al Kurtubi and Alusi, have acknowledged its truth.” Shahbe says Bukhari and Muslim also had acknowledged it, went on to add to it the following account: “A spell was cast upon the Prophet. He was believed to have slept with his wives while in fact he had not. Sufyan declared that he had been under a powerful black magic” (Abu Shabbe, Defense of the Sunna, pp. 152-153.).

According to the Quran, those who said that the prophet was bewitched were wicked people. Yet, most of the reliable hadith scholars had been of a different cast of mind. You may revert to syllogistic reasoning to conclude the identity of the wicked people.

7) IS A WILL PERMISSIBLE?
106 – O you who believe, witnessing a will when one of you is dying, shall be done by two equitable people among you.
5 The Feast, 106

Hadith: No will for heirs.
Hanbal

Reference is made to the will both in Sura The Feast and in other verses. The estate remaining after the execution of the will is distributed as indicated in the Quran. This hadith, aiming at repealing the lawfulness of bequeathing, is an attempt at revocation of a provision of the Quran.

8 ) PAINTERS GREATEST SINNERS?
48 – God does not forgive who set up partners to God, but He forgives anything else to whom He pleases.
4 The Women, 48

Hadith: The persons who will receive the severest punishment will be painters.
Bukhari-Tasawir

According to the Quran, the greatest sin is to set up partners to God. Every sin is pardonable except this. Therefore these will be the people who will be doomed to eternal punishment. If one is to give credence to Bukhari’s above stated hadith, the painters will be doomed to eternal punishment. (The hadith invented by sectarians and hadith transmitters to show their hostility to arts will be the subject of Chapter 18.)
This hadith contradicts the Quran. Moreover there are other conflicting hadiths. For instance, according to another hadith, chess players will receive the severest punishment (Capital Sins, Hafýz Zahabi).

9) WEARING GOLD ITEMS AND SILK GARMENTS?
32 – Say: “Who prohibited the nice things God has created for His servants and the good provisions?” Say: “They are believers in the world, and will be exclusively theirs on the day of resurrection.” That is how We explain Our signs in detail for those who understand.
7 The Purgatory, 32

Hadith: “Gold and silk are allowed to be worn by women but forbidden for men.”
Muslim

Gold and silk may be worn both by men and women indiscriminately. There is no hint in the Quran regarding their prohibition. God allows them to be made use of by both sexes. This hadith of Muslim who contends that every one of the hadiths he transmits is valid conflicts with the relevant verse of the Quran mentioned above.

10) FISH CAUSE OF EARTHQUAKE?
30 – He made the earth egg-shaped.
79 Those Who Pull and Withdraw, 30

Hadith: The earth rests upon a fish. When it shakes its head earthquakes occur.
Ibn Kathir -Commentary

The Quran miraculously stated that the earth had an elliptical shape, it explained as today’s science would have explained the formation of the embryo, the wind’s role in insemination, etc. Yet the superstitions that find a place in the hadiths conflict with the Quran and logic. Why not ask the possessors of this mentality the kind of fish that is supposed to support the earth?


32 Responses to “CONTRADICTIONS BETWEEN THE HADITHS AND THE QURAN”


  1. 1 Mahmoud
    May 8, 2007 at 6:43 pm

    But man, how can we throw away hadiths, when Quran says that we should obey the prophet. How can we pray, when the ‘how to pray’ is explained in hadith!!! Waiting for your clarification

  2. 2 samy
    May 8, 2007 at 9:23 pm

    Dont throw away , use it as a historical book about traditions of the prophet and can be corrupted . The hadith is not giving you the details of salat from the mouth of mohamed (pbuh),
    but from people watching prophet practicing it , number of rakaas differs and its not clear .
    please read

    “How Can We Observe The Salaat Prayers By Following The Quran Alone?”

  3. May 9, 2007 at 4:59 am

    The truth can only be that in the sequences of Qur’an by contrast to the sequences of all other Ahadith, have we only compared to far into what might not be possible to conceive of being experiencing.

    Once realising the revelation of any of Qur’an and/or Ahadith, we can only be certain in there being no contradication, for upon that possibility all life depends.

    Salam

  4. 4 samy
    May 9, 2007 at 8:44 am

    if you are trying to merge quran and hadith , then you are trying to say that god wanted us to believe in
    1- Anti-christ (dajal) like christians
    2-The return of jesus christ like christians
    3-Stoning Adultress like Jews
    and not mentioning it in his book . but giving this information to prophet mohamed to tell his people and to transfer this piece of information orally 140 years to bukhari to write it down so that its confirmed .
    And you are trying to say that all the names in the muslim/bukhari are all 100% truthful people .
    We are all angels…..
    This is the work of the devil, to enter scriptures and keeping you blinnded from the truth.

    Zukhruf

  5. June 21, 2007 at 12:54 pm

    I read your baseless and corrupt writeup on contradictions between the hadeeths and the Qur’an. The problem is that you lack knowledge of both the Qur’an and the Hadeeth. Since it is said “faaqidus shay’i laa yu’utihi, I am not surprise that ‘Shaytaaniyoon like you, the followers of Khalifah Rashad, the zindiq, will write this.

  6. 6 samy
    June 21, 2007 at 11:03 pm

    “shaytaaniyoon” “zindiq”

    hehehe

    allah ysam7ak

    and why follower of rashad ?
    this is ignorance , calling anyone rashads follower

  7. 7 samy
    June 21, 2007 at 11:09 pm

    ana zindiq ?

  8. 8 Me
    June 21, 2007 at 11:27 pm

    I don’t agree with you on this topic at all and I think you shouldn’t write about things you have no knowledge about. Didn’t Allah tell us in the Qur’an to “Obey Allah and His Messenger…”?
    Tell me how to Obey His Messenger if I only follow the Qur’an which is the word of Allah and not His messenger’s. So where does the Messenger part come in? what do you follow in order to fulfill your obligation to obey the messenger? The SUNNAH, of course! and where do find the sunnah?….in ahadeeths!

    You’re confused.

    • 9 aadil
      November 12, 2011 at 7:32 am

      in quran its written ”say , ……….” by this way follow mohammad(pbuh) ,
      and the hadith which is mentioned by many many different peoples like the hadith of salah , follow it , and not like the one that music is haraam , etc

      • 10 aadil
        November 12, 2011 at 7:44 am

        i am not a scholar of islam………i am still studying the quran and hadith ,, but the fact is that i am not comfordable with some hadith ,,,,may allah show u and me the right path.

  9. 12 treesandstones
    June 22, 2007 at 12:30 pm

    Hi

    The following topic is to do with a muslim womens dress code, again i came accross a different set of information in this very site mentioning the opposite of what this blogger has posted on your host site ‘free minds.org’. from waht i have read on this site there is no requirement for a muslim women to wear a cloth to cover here head. so please could you help clear this ‘misunderstanding’ thanks.

    EXAMPLE
    (As-Salaamu alaikum Rasul and all,

    Wow, that is cool. So tell me again why women here don’t believe in wearing jilbaab and khimaar? Just curious to hear from the women on what they think Allah said that I misunderstand. Please don’t post links to the other threads, I can find them if I want to. I want to hear your personal responses here as women as to what you think ayat 24:31 on bikhumurihinna and ayat 33:59 on jalaabeebihinna actually mean please.

    وَقُل لِّلْمُؤْمِنَاتِ يَغْضُضْنَ مِنْ أَبْصَارِهِنَّ وَيَحْفَظْنَ فُرُوجَهُنَّ وَلَا يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلَّا مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَلْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلَى جُيُوبِهِنَّ وَلَا يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلَّا لِبُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ آبَائِهِنَّ أَوْ آبَاء بُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ أَبْنَائِهِنَّ أَوْ أَبْنَاء بُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ إِخْوَانِهِنَّ أَوْ بَنِي إِخْوَانِهِنَّ أَوْ بَنِي أَخَوَاتِهِنَّ أَوْ نِسَائِهِنَّ أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُهُنَّ أَوِ التَّابِعِينَ غَيْرِ أُوْلِي الْإِرْبَةِ مِنَ الرِّجَالِ أَوِ الطِّفْلِ الَّذِينَ لَمْ يَظْهَرُوا عَلَى عَوْرَاتِ النِّسَاء وَلَا يَضْرِبْنَ بِأَرْجُلِهِنَّ لِيُعْلَمَ مَا يُخْفِينَ مِن زِينَتِهِنَّ وَتُوبُوا إِلَى اللَّهِ جَمِيعًا أَيُّهَا الْمُؤْمِنُونَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ {31}

    [Yusufali 24:31] And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband’s fathers, their sons, their husbands’ sons, their brothers or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.

    يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُل لِّأَزْوَاجِكَ وَبَنَاتِكَ وَنِسَاء الْمُؤْمِنِينَ يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِن جَلَابِيبِهِنَّ ذَلِكَ أَدْنَى أَن يُعْرَفْنَ فَلَا يُؤْذَيْنَ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا {59}

    [Yusufali 33:59] O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

    Thanks for your replies.)

  10. 13 samy
    June 23, 2007 at 5:52 am

    hi treesandstones ,

    this is what i believe

    verse 24:31
    Muslim scholars misunderstood the meaning
    of the Arabic word “khumur = covers” in 24:31 into “head
    covers”. The word “khumur” is a plural noun that comes from
    the root word of “khamara” which means “to cover”.
    The singular form of the same word “khamr”, has been used for
    intoxicants which “cover” the mind (5:90).
    In verse 24:31,
    There are many points in the verse below which until today cause lots of confusion for scholars throughout. We will, GOD willing, take the points of the above verse one-by-one:

    “And tell the believing women to:

    1) Subdue their eyes, and
    2) Keep their private area chaste .
    3) They shall not expose their , except that which is exposed. They shall place their cover on their , and shall not expose their except to their husbands, their fathers, the fathers of their husbands, their sons, the sons of their husbands, their brothers, the sons of their brothers, the sons of their sisters,
    4) ,
    5) or
    6) Workers who do not have sexual interest, or
    7) The children who do not yet understand women’s private parts.
    8.) They shall not strike their feet so it is known what they hide from their .

    All of you shall repent to GOD, O you believers, that you may succeed.” (24/31)

    1) This command has also come down in 24/30 to address the male believers that they should subdue their gaze, and in 24/31 for the female believers that they do the same.

    This is the first line of defense for both males and females from wanting and this would imply in today’s society to people we see in the street or even on TV, for the believers will not stare at sights which would make them uncomfortable (if the roles were reversed) but should exercise judgment.

    2) Maintain the chastity has also come before this verse in 24/30 to address the believing men that they should maintain their chastity. The word is directly related to the “private area” or “genitals” of both the man and the woman. The command in this verse is that women (and men in the previous verse) should PROTECT and CONCEAL their “private area”.

    The implications of this word go beyond merely the exposure of ones private area, but also to the level that protection involves not letting anyone touch or come near. Thus the idea of “foreplay” and touching or “oral sex” is AUTOMATICALLY rejected by the Quran for all those who are unmarried and no excuses are given.

    3) The of a woman is identified in the same verse when GOD commands her to “cover” her Zeena which is the .

    in Arabic is used for any opening with TWO sides to it. Thus for the body of a woman, the would be the area of the breasts, the area under the arms, the vagina area as well as the hands, feet, nose, mouth and
    ears. It is incorrect to define as merely the breasts of a woman since that will lead to a wrong understanding of the minimum dress-code requirements (i.e the woman can cover her breasts and walk around naked revealing everything else).

    The area of the head (mouth, ears, nose) as well as the feet and hands all fall under the EXCEPTION to being covered which is mentioned as in the same verse. is literally translated as “that which protrudes”, thus the limbs (head, feet and hands) are all protruding from the body and therefore are exempt from having their which is the from being covered.

    It is worth noting that a woman’s stomach and back are NOT part of the and can be revealed if one wished to do so with no implications of “Right” or “Wrong”.

    It is upto the believing women to ensure that all these areas known as are covered and not revealed to anyone except: 1. Husband, 2. Father, 3. Husband’s Father, 4. Son, 5. Husband’s Son, 6. Brother, 7. Brother’s Son, 8. Sister’s Son.

    Some people may think that this allows a woman to appear entirely naked in front of the above list. The answer to that is “yes”, it is not from the Halal or Haram if this happens, but it will be modesty and cultural norms that make this concept peculiar.

    It is CRITICAL to note that the list of men to whom a woman can reveal her does NOT include her (Uncle, Son from Suckling, Brother from Suckling, Mother’s Husband, Daughter’s Husband and Sister’s Husband) EVEN THOUGHT these people are “Mahram’s” whom she is forbidden from marrying (see sura # 4 for the full “Mahram” list).

    This new understanding implies that some men may still have a sexual drive or desire for a woman even though they are her “Mahram’s” which she is forbidden from marrying. Thus she is NOT to reveal her in their presence.

    This understanding of will force most Fiqh scholars to re-examine their understanding that the is merely ornaments or make-up, but it is something much more which only a limited few are allowed to see (or else the Mahram’s in Sura # 4 must never see a woman if she has make-up or jewelry on).

    4) The next word for those who may see a woman’s is described by the word .

    This word has been mistakenly understood to be “women”, whereas the word can also be used for “those who came later” . This word covers all those who come later on such as: Son’s Son, Grandchildren, Son’s, Son of Brother, Son’s Son of Sister (i.e. all those who come from the seed of the people allowed to see the woman’s Zeena).

    5) (to be dealt with separately)

    6) , this can be used to describe all men who do not have any interest in sexual conduct with the woman (such as a doctor who is giving her birth).

    7) Children who do not yet understand the meaning of a woman’s private parts.

    8.) Striking their feet to reveal their . This is referring to the which we have already identified as all the with the exception of that which is is on the limbs “Protruding Zeena”. This “hidden Zeena” can only be revealed through the striking of the feet if it were used to describe any form of dancing for a woman that causes the revealment of her “hidden” bodyparts (breast, inner-thighs, and armpits). Such dancing can be found in what is today called “exotic dancing”, “belly dancing” and “striptease dancing”.

    This is the BEAR MINIMUM that GOD has ORDERED the believing women to abide by with no repercussions or consequences in the hereafter. As for those who wish to have more INSTRUCTIONS as to what is suitable dress code, they do not have to look far:

    verse 33:59
    “O prophet, tell your wives, your daughters, and the wives of the believers that they shall lengthen their garments. Thus, they will be recognized and avoid being harmed. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.”

    The instructions above is for the believing women who wish to avoid harm (either social or otherwise) which is caused if they were not fully clothed and may be treated with disrespect or as women who do not abide by GOD’s moral laws (i.e. prostitutes).

    It is our duty as believers in the Book to ensure that GOD’s commands and instructions are understood so they may be implemented by people of all places and all times.

    thx for asking

  11. 14 treesandstones
    June 23, 2007 at 6:44 am

    OK – well its strange as i cannot understand why hair or a womens hair can be considered as ‘zeena’. i mean compare that to breast etc its does not make sense how covering of hair should honestly be a part of zeena. i have worn the ‘hijab’ for as long as i can remember and like soo many muslim women i have also been doped in to believing it is important to cover the hair. My doubt concerning the hadith sayings arouse when coming across conflicting information. so i decided to do some research my self – in order to find out the truth. considering the quran is ‘complete’.

    But there is one point which you have not mentioned about the ‘jilbaab’, which is from what i understand an outter garment. the following is the verse to what i am referring to . i really do appreciate your time. thanks.

    [Yusufali 33:59] O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

  12. 15 samy
    June 23, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    يأيها النبي قل لازواجك وبناتك ونساء المؤمنين يدينين عليهن من جلابيبهن ذلك ادني ان يعرفن فلا يؤذين وكان الله غفورا رحيما

    ‘jilbab’ is from the arabic root ‘jalbaba جلبب’ – To Dress or To Cover (body cover) since the head was totally neglected , and ‘yudneen يدينين’ means lower same as ‘adna ادني’ which explains the concept of limits in the quran.

    so its simply to wear a long dress.

    can you see that its more logical ?

    thanks

  13. 16 samy
    June 23, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    “i decided to do some research my self – in order to find out the truth. considering the quran is ‘complete’.”

    Congratulations , thats the straight path .

    plz ask any questions concerning the meanings of arabic words because its hard to find a good translation and i think there is a problem in understanding the quran by most translators , even the arabs are confused and they do not know what they are talking about.

  14. 17 treesandstones
    June 23, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    Thanks l know i will be needing your help in terms of language issues. For us english speaking folks and dire little knowledge of the classic arabic language it makes it very difficult to understand the true meaning of the quran -even tough it is meant to be understood. Again thanks for your help – i am assuming you have come across the following www site – freedom.org?
    I believe islam is a logical religion – but in order to address such logic one needs to understand the quran. so i guess for my it is indeed a long road ahead.

    By the way could you please e-post me exactly the prayers you read and how they are read ie what surahs and actions. Promise this will be the last ‘long’ request. May Allah reward you kindly.

    salam

  15. 18 samy
    June 23, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    The prayers is like a daily meditation session where you connect to god alone.

    The rules are not systematic because each time you pray you have different things to say .
    God is listening to everything so you can feel free

    17:110

    قُلِ ادْعُواْ اللّهَ أَوِ ادْعُواْ الرَّحْمَـنَ أَيًّا مَّا تَدْعُواْ فَلَهُ الأَسْمَاء الْحُسْنَى وَلاَ تَجْهَرْ بِصَلاَتِكَ وَلاَ تُخَافِتْ بِهَا وَابْتَغِ بَيْنَ ذَلِكَ سَبِيلاً

    Say, ‘call upon God or call upon the All-merciful; by whichever name you call upon, His are the names most beautiful.’ And be thou not loud in thy prayer nor be in low tones, but seek for a way in between.
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    you must read god’s words while praying and you have to understand what you are saying , thats why it is not allowed to pray while you are drunk , until you get your mind back

    29:45

    اتْلُ مَا أُوحِيَ إِلَيْكَ مِنَ الْكِتَابِ وَأَقِمِ الصَّلَاةَ إِنَّ الصَّلَاةَ تَنْهَى عَنِ الْفَحْشَاء وَالْمُنكَرِ وَلَذِكْرُ اللَّهِ أَكْبَرُ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ مَا تَصْنَعُونَ

    Recite what has been revealed to thee of the Book, and establish the Prayer; surely the Prayer forbids indecency and repugnant things; and God’s remembrance is yet greater; and God knows the things you work.

    4:43

    يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَقْرَبُواْ الصَّلاَةَ وَأَنتُمْ سُكَارَى حَتَّىَ تَعْلَمُواْ مَا تَقُولُون

    Believers, do not draw near to the Prayer when you are drunken, until you know what you are saying
    ———————————————-
    Seek Help

    يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ اسْتَعِينُواْ بِالصَّبْرِ وَالصَّلاَةِ إِنَّ اللّهَ مَعَ الصَّابِرِينَ

    O Believers, seek help through patience and the Prayer; surely God is with the patient.

    ———————————————-

    God prays on the guided ones 2:157

    أُولَـئِكَ عَلَيْهِمْ صَلَوَاتٌ مِّن رَّبِّهِمْ وَرَحْمَةٌ وَأُولَـئِكَ هُمُ الْمُهْتَدُونَ

    Those are the ones on whom prayers and mercy of their Lord, and those are the guided ones.
    ———————————————–

    the story of Zachariah 3:38-39

    هُنَالِكَ دَعَا زَكَرِيَّا رَبَّهُ قَالَ رَبِّ هَبْ لِي مِن لَّدُنْكَ ذُرِّيَّةً طَيِّبَةً إِنَّكَ سَمِيعُ الدُّعَاء

    There Zachariah prayed to his Lord; he said, ‘my Lord, grant me from Thyself a goodly offspring; surely Thou hearest the prayer.’

    فَنَادَتْهُ الْمَلآئِكَةُ وَهُوَ قَائِمٌ يُصَلِّي فِي الْمِحْرَابِ أَنَّ اللّهَ يُبَشِّرُكَ بِيَحْيَـى مُصَدِّقًا بِكَلِمَةٍ مِّنَ اللّهِ وَسَيِّدًا وَحَصُورًا وَنَبِيًّا مِّنَ الصَّالِحِينَ

    And the angels called to him, while he stood praying in the Chamber, ‘God gives thee good news of John, who will confirm a Word from God, and be a chief and chaste and a Prophet among the good-doers.’
    ————————————————

    There are no number units but its advisable to be moderate. in (17:110) its not about the tone , its about the concept ,
    its private so don’t show everybody that you are going to pray and don’t take it as a secret unless you are afraid.

    4:101

    وَإِذَا ضَرَبْتُمْ فِي الأَرْضِ فَلَيْسَ عَلَيْكُمْ جُنَاحٌ أَن تَقْصُرُواْ مِنَ الصَّلاَةِ إِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَن يَفْتِنَكُمُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ إِنَّ الْكَافِرِينَ كَانُواْ لَكُمْ عَدُوًّا مُّبِينًا

    And when you go forth in the land, it is no fault in you that you shorten the Prayer, if you fear that the unbelievers will put you to trouble; the unbelievers are surely an open enemy to you.

    you can shorten the time of the session if you need.

    actions are bowing and prostrating – (2:43, 4:102)

    and times , sunrise , sunset and night.
    ————————————————
    and Clean Yourself before each prayer

    “O you who believe, if you rise to hold the Salat, then wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, and wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles;

    and if you have had intercourse, then you shall bathe.

    And if you are ill, or traveling, or you have excreted feces, or you have had sexual contact , and you could not find water, then you shall select from the clean soil; you shall wipe your faces and your hands with it.

    God does not want to make any hardship over you, but He wants to cleanse you and to complete His blessings upon you that you may be appreciative.”

  16. 19 samy
    June 23, 2007 at 11:53 pm

    Showing deferential or submissive respect
    23:2
    الَّذِينَ هُمْ فِي صَلَاتِهِمْ خَاشِعُونَ
    Those who humble themselves in their prayers;
    2:45
    وَاسْتَعِينُواْ بِالصَّبْرِ وَالصَّلاَةِ وَإِنَّهَا لَكَبِيرَةٌ إِلاَّ عَلَى الْخَاشِعِينَ
    And seek help through patience and the Prayer; and it is indeed hard except to the humble,

  17. 20 samy
    June 24, 2007 at 12:21 am

    Praise highly; exalt and try to integrate with the current system of prayers and extolling.

    24:41

    لَمْ تَرَ أَنَّ اللَّهَ يُسَبِّحُ لَهُ مَن فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَالطَّيْرُ صَافَّاتٍ كُلٌّ قَدْ عَلِمَ صَلَاتَهُ وَتَسْبِيحَهُ وَاللَّهُ عَلِيم
    بِمَا يَفْعَلُونَ

    Hast thou not seen that whoso is in the heavens and the earth extol God, and so do the birds spreading their wings; each knows its prayer and its extolling; and God knows what they do.

    56:74 & 96

    فَسَبِّحْ بِاسْمِ رَبِّكَ الْعَظِيمِ

    So extol the Name of thy Mighty Lord.

    87:1

    بسم الله الحمن الرحيم سَبِّحِ اسْمَ رَبِّكَ الْأَعْلَى

    Extol the Name of thy Lord, the Most High,

    15:98

    فَسَبِّحْ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّكَ وَكُن مِّنَ السَّاجِدِينَ

    but extol thou thy Sustainer’s limitless glory and praise Him, and be of those who prostrate themselves [before Him] in adoration,

    20:130

    فَاصْبِرْ عَلَى مَا يَقُولُونَ وَسَبِّحْ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّكَ قَبْلَ طُلُوعِ الشَّمْسِ وَقَبْلَ غُرُوبِهَا وَمِنْ آنَاء اللَّيْلِ فَسَبِّحْ وَأَطْرَافَ النَّهَارِ لَعَلَّكَ تَرْضَى

    Hence, bear with patience whatever they [who deny the truth] may say, and extol thy Sustainer’s limitless glory and praise Him before the rising of the sun and before its setting; and extol His glory, too, during some of the hours of the night as well as during the hours of the day, so that thou might attain to happiness.

  18. 21 samy
    June 24, 2007 at 1:13 am

    Request only from God

    72:18

    وَأَنَّ الْمَسَاجِدَ لِلَّهِ فَلَا تَدْعُوا مَعَ اللَّهِ أَحَدًا

    And [know] that all worship is due to God [alone]: hence, do not invoke anyone side by side with God!

    6:162

    قُلْ إِنَّ صَلاَتِي وَنُسُكِي وَمَحْيَايَ وَمَمَاتِي لِلّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ

    Say: “Behold, my prayer, and [all] my acts of worship, and my living and my dying are for God [alone], the Sustainer of all the worlds,

  19. 22 samy
    June 24, 2007 at 1:16 am

    The chapter al-Fatiha (The Opening) is the only chapter which addresses God in its entirety and is an appropriate prayer for Salaat.
    For non-Arabs it should not be too difficult to learn the meaning of words in al-Fatiha, since it consists of seven short verses.
    Those who are unable to learn the meaning of al-Fatiha should pray in the language that he or she understands.
    There are no practical reasons for reciting in Arabic during individually observed prayers.

  20. 23 samy
    June 24, 2007 at 2:02 am

    The Network

    33:56

    إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا

    Verily, God and His angels pray upon the Prophet: [hence,] O you who have attained to faith, pray upon him and give yourselves up [to his guidance] in utter self-surrender!

    33:43

    هُوَ الَّذِي يُصَلِّي عَلَيْكُمْ وَمَلَائِكَتُهُ لِيُخْرِجَكُم مِّنَ الظُّلُمَاتِ إِلَى النُّورِ وَكَانَ بِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ رَحِيمًا

    it is He who prays upon you, with His angels [echoing Him], so that He might take you out of the depths of darkness into the light. And, indeed, a dispenser of grace is He unto the believers.

    Pray to God
    Pray upon anyone to God
    Request anything from God
    Ask for forgiveness from God
    Thank and Praise God

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  27. 30 Ahmed
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