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Oct
07

Personalities Renowned By Mother Names

Originally Posted By: Ahmad Ammar
Date: Wednesday, 22 September 2004, at 3:08 a.m.

Personalities Renowned By Their Mother Names

There are many personalities in history that are famous by their
mother’s manes (as their mothers were renowned personalities) as
“Kuniat”. These names does not imply that they have no fathers nor
their names can be translated as “abc” son of “their mother’s
names”, because they have their fathers and they should be called
with their father names as is a general rule described in QURAN,
however their “Kuniat” may be of their mother names & this practice
does not violate the rule of QURAN.

(33:5) Name your adopted children after their fathers; that is more
just in the Sight of Allah. And if you do not know who their fathers
were, then they are your brothers, sisters and friends in Faith. (You
shall treat them as family members). There is no blame on you for an
unintentional mistake. What counts is the intention of your hearts, for
Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Examples of “Kuniat” with Mother Names taken from History & Ahadith
are as:

(1) “Ammar bin Yasir” titled [that is “Kuniat”] as “Ibn
Samia” as his mother Samia served as a maid and Ammar accepted Islam
at an early age.

(2) “Kuniat” is “Ibn Majah” full name is Muhammad bin Yazid.

(3) “Kuniat” is “Ibn Um Maktum” full name is Umar bin Zaida.

1.591 Narrated Salim bin Abdullah Sahih Al-Bukhari
My father said that Allah’s Apostle said, “Bilal pronounces ‘Adhan at
night, so keep on eating and drinking (Suhur) till Ibn Um Maktum
pronounces Adhan.” Salim added, “He was a blind man who would not
pronounce the Adhan unless he was told that the day had dawned.”

(4) “Kuniat” is “ibn Hasana” fill name is “Shurahbil bin
Abdullah”.

1157 Narrated AbuDharr Sahih Al- Muslim

Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: You would soon conquer a
land where people are in the habit of using foul language. They have a
right of kinship upon you. And when you see two persons fighting for
the space of a brick, then get out of that. He (AbuDharr) then happened
to pass by Rabi’ah and AbdurRahman, the two sons of Shurahbil ibn
Hasana, and they had been disputing for the space of a brick. So he
left the land.

(5) “Kuniat” is “Ibn Um ‘Abd” fill name is “Abdullah bin
Mas’ud”.

5.106 Narrated Abdur Rahman bin Yazid Sahih Al-Bukhari
We asked Hudhaifa to tell us of a person resembling (to some extent)
the Prophet in good appearance and straightforward behavior so that we
may learn from him (good manners and acceptable conduct). Hudhaifa
replied, “I do not know anybody resembling the Prophet (to some extent)
in appearance and conduct more than Ibn Um ‘Abd.” (i.e. ‘Abdullah bin
Mas’ud)

Also see: 5.105 Narrated Alqama Sahih Al-Bukhari

(6) Al-Hajjaj bin Aiman bin Um Aiman
Aiman Ibn Um Aiman
Al-Hajjaj bin Aiman
Al-Hajjaj bin Um Aiman
Um Aiman was one of the nurses of the Prophet.

5.81 Narrated Usama bin Zaid

That the Prophet used to take him (i.e. Usama) and Al-Hassan (in his
lap) and say: “O Allah! Love them, as I love them.” The freed slave of
Usama bin Zaid said, “Al-Hajjaj bin Aiman bin Um Aiman and Aiman Ibn Um
Aiman was Usama’s brother from the maternal side, and he was one of the
Ansar. He was seen by Ibn ‘Umar not performing his bowing and
prostrations in a perfect manner. So Ibn ‘Umar told him to repeat his
prayer. Harmala, the freed slave of Usama bin Zaid said that while he
was in the company of ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar, Al-Hajjaj bin Aiman came in
and (while praying) he did not perform his bowing and prostrations
properly. So Ibn ‘Umar told him to repeat his prayer. When he went
away, Ibn ‘Umar asked me, “Who is he?” I said, “Al-Hajjaj bin Um
Aiman.” Ibn ‘Umar said, “If Allah’s Apostle saw him, he would have
loved him.” Then Ibn ‘Umar mentioned the love of the Prophet for the
children of Um Aiman. Sulaiman said that Um Aiman was one of the nurses
of the Prophet.

(7) Hadith No. 20.97 Al-Muwatta contains a name as “Muhammad ibn
Abdullah ibn Abi Maryam”

(8) Hadith No. 3.51 Al-Muwatta contains a name as “Muslim ibn Abi
Maryam”

All these Famous Personalities have their fathers.

What is way QURAN uses as: (4:171) [”Maseh Isa Ibn Maryam”] Instead
of [”Maseh Isa Bin Maryam”] No where in QURAN not to violate
itself!

Here in (4:171) “Al- Maseh Isa Ibn Maryam Rasol ‘Allaah”, the
breakup is as:
(1) “Al- Maseh” is Laqab,
(2) “Isa” is Name,
(3) “Ibn Maryam” is Kuniat,
(4) “Rasol ‘Allaah” means prophet of Allah.
(5) “wa- kalimah -hu alqaa -haa ‘ilaa maryam wa- roh. min -hu”
means the fulfillment of His Word to Mary, created according to the
Laws of Creation and given free will from the Divine Energy (like all
human beings (15:29), (32:7-9), (38:72)).

The word “Ibn” is used 28 times in QURAN, except 4 times that is
(7:150), (9:30), (40:36), (66:11) & it is used for Isa as “Isa Ibn
Maryam” or as “Ibn Maryam” 24 times. But the word “Bin” is
not used in QURAN.

In (7:150) “Ibn Um” is used for Prophet Moses, does it implies
virgin birth? Certainly not.

The Second Answer to believers of virgin birth is that as per verse
(33:5) [Name your adopted children after their fathers; that is more
just in the Sight of Allah] it is clear that this verse is related to
adopted children so it cannot be applied to “Maseh Isa Ibn Maryam”
as he was not an adopted son.

It is my challenge that there is not a single Sahih Hadith that
describes the virgin birth of prophet Isa.

==References==

(1) Late Anayat ul Allah Asri Gujarati, Imam Ahl-e-Hadith Mosque,
Gujarat City, Pakistan in his Book named “Aune zam zam fi milade isa
ibne Maryam”.
(2) QXP by Dr. Shabbir.
(3) Al-Alim CD.

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10 Responses to “Personalities Renowned By Mother Names”


  1. October 2, 2007 at 3:21 am

    very interesting rana …
    thank you

    The Quranic view of the birth of Jesus

    “How can I have a son when no man has touched me, nor do I desire such?”

    Surah : 19 – Maryam verses 16-21

    وَاذْكُرْ فِي الْكِتَابِ مَرْيَمَ إِذِ انتَبَذَتْ مِنْ أَهْلِهَا مَكَانًا شَرْقِيًّا

    And relate in the Scripture Mary, when she withdrew herself from her family to a place which was to the east

    فَاتَّخَذَتْ مِن دُونِهِمْ حِجَابًا فَأَرْسَلْنَا إِلَيْهَا رُوحَنَا فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا بَشَرًا سَوِيًّا

    She took to a barrier which separated her from them, so We sent Our spirit to her, and he took on the shape of a human in all similarity.

    قَالَتْ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِالرَّحْمَنِ مِنكَ إِن كُنتَ تَقِيًّا

    She said: “I seek refuge with the Almighty from you if you are a person of faith.”

    قَالَ إِنَّمَا أَنَا رَسُولُ رَبِّكِ لِأَهَبَ لَكِ غُلاَمًا زَكِيًّا

    He said: “I am the messenger of your Lord, to give you the gift of a pure son.”

    قَالَتْ أَنَّى يَكُونُ لِي غُلاَمٌ وَلَمْ يَمْسَسْنِي بَشَرٌ وَلَمْ أَكُ بَغِيًّا

    She said: “How can I have a son when no man has touched me, nor do I desire such?”

    قَالَ كَذَلِكِ قَالَ رَبُّكِ هُوَ عَلَيَّ هَيِّنٌ وَلِنَجْعَلَهُ آيَةً لِّلنَّاسِ وَرَحْمَةً مِّنَّا وَكَانَ أَمْرًا مَّقْضِيًّا

    He said: “It is such that your Lord has said, it is easy for Me. And We shall make him a sign for mankind and a mercy from Us. It is a matter already ordained.”

    The one who protected her chastity

    وَالَّتِي أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهَا مِن رُّوحِنَا وَجَعَلْنَاهَا وَابْنَهَا آيَةً لِّلْعَالَمِينَ

    And the one who protected her chastity, so We blew into her from Our Spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds. 21:91

    وَمَرْيَمَ ابْنَتَ عِمْرَانَ الَّتِي أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِنَا وَصَدَّقَتْ بِكَلِمَاتِ رَبِّهَا وَكُتُبِهِ وَكَانَتْ مِنَ الْقَانِتِينَ

    Also Mary, the daughter of Imran, who maintained her chastity. So We blew into her from Our spirit, and she believed in the words of her Lord and His Scriptures; and she was of those who were obedient. 66:12

    The birth of Jesus and Adam

    Jesus

    (فَأَرْسَلْنَا إِلَيْهَا رُوحَنَا) So We sent Our spirit to her. 19:17
    (فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِنَا) So We blew into her from Our spirit 21:91,66:12

    Adam

    فَإِذَا سَوَّيْتُهُ وَنَفَخْتُ فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِي فَقَعُواْ لَهُ سَاجِدِينَ

    “So when I perfect him, and blow of My spirit in him, you shall submit to him.” 15:29,38:72

    (وَنَفَخْتُ فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِي ) and blow of My spirit in him

    The Quran likens the creation of Jesus to of Adam. Interestingly, the frequencies of both names are also equal: each occurs 25 times in the Quran.

    إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَى عِندَ اللّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ

    The example of Jesus with God is similar to that of Adam; He created him from dust, then He said to him “Be” and he was. 3:59

    So Jesus had no father, his mother maintained her chastity and the spirit ( رُّوحِ ) played an intermediate role

    please read What is Rooh ?

    thats why he was named “Ibn Maryam” The son of Mary, confirming his virgin birth unlike anyone who must have a father (known or Unkown)

    ادْعُوهُمْ لِآبَائِهِمْ هُوَ أَقْسَطُ عِندَ اللَّهِ فَإِن لَّمْ تَعْلَمُوا آبَاءَهُمْ فَإِخْوَانُكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ وَمَوَالِيكُمْ وَلَيْسَ عَلَيْكُمْ جُنَاحٌ فِيمَا أَخْطَأْتُم بِهِ وَلَكِن مَّا تَعَمَّدَتْ قُلُوبُكُمْ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا

    Name them by retaining their father’s name. That is more just with God. But if you do not know their fathers, then, as your brothers in the system and members of your family. There is no sin upon you if you make a mistake in this respect; but you will be responsible for what your hearts deliberately intend. God is Forgiver, Merciful. 33:5

    Peace

  2. October 2, 2007 at 4:41 am

    “A”, “/” ? Are these kind of secret codes?

  3. 3 Rana Ammar Mazhar
    October 2, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    The Name Structure of Messiah Jesus, son of Mary.

    Traditionally real children are named after their father’s name; even it is ordered (33:5) that “Name your adopted children after their fathers”.

    33:5 Name your adopted children after their fathers; that is more just in the Sight of Allah. And if you do not know who their fathers were, then they are your brothers, sisters and friends in Faith. (You shall treat them as family members). There is no blame on you for an unintentional mistake. What counts is the intention of your hearts, for Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    How is it possible to name Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, after his mother?s name?

    One traditional answer to this question is that father was not present, i.e., virgin birth.

    But it is not correct.

    Correct answer is that “Ibn Mary” is used as ?Kuniat?, not for “son of Mary”, in the following verses.

    3:45 Angels said, ?O Mary! Allah gives you the good news through a word from Him. His name would be Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, held in honor in this world and among the ones close to Me in the Hereafter.

    4:157 And for claiming, ?We killed the Messiah Jesus son of Mary, Allah?s Messenger.? They never killed him and never crucified him. But it appeared so to them and the matter remained dubious to them. Those who hold conflicting views on this issue are indeed confused. They have no real knowledge but they are following mere conjecture. Very certainly, they never killed him.

    4:171 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion. Say nothing about God except the truth. The Messiah Jesus son of Mary was a Messenger of Allah, the fulfillment of His Word to Mary, created according to the Laws of Creation and given free will from the Divine Energy (like all human beings 15:29, 32:7-9, 38:72). Believe in Allah and His Messengers, and say not: ?Three”. Cease! It is for your own good. God is but One God. Far removed it is from His Supreme Majesty that He should have a son. Everything in the Highs and everything in the Lows belongs to Him. He is the Self-Sufficient Sustainer of the Universe (2:255).

    Translate Messiah Jesus, son of Mary as Messiah Jesus, Ibn Mary

    So it is better to call & translate Messiah Jesus, Ibn Mary instead of Messiah Jesus, son of Mary.

    http://ourbeacon.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=865&highlight=#865

    Dear Arnold Yasin Mol

    AA!

    As you write in response to my post that, ?I suggest Uncle that you should translate the word in both ways, one keeping in mind with the bigger picture of the Quran’s Message, the other meaning keeping in mind how this verse gives extra proof against the virgin birth.

    So it would look like this:

    6:87 And We gave distinction to some of their ancestors, fathers, children, siblings and brothers and guided them to the Straight Path.

    This verse would be only a small part inside the explanation of the proof that Jesus was born naturally?.

    I highly appreciate your modification above as suggested by me.

    But in my opinion this verse contributes & provides largest & biggest proof inside the explanation of the fact that Jesus was born naturally for traditional mind N2I?, I am not one of them.

    Thanks!

    http://ourbeacon.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=804&highlight=#804

    The Prophet Jesus Had Wife and Children

    13:38 And verily We sent Messengers before you, and We appointed for them wives and children as well. (They all were mortal human beings and they conveyed Allah’s Revelation as commanded). It was not given to any Messenger that he could bring a Sign (the requital they hastened for), but it came according to Allah?s Law of Respite. For every rise and for every fall, there is a Written Law. (7:34).

    [Shakir 13:38] And certainly We sent messengers before you and gave them wives and children, and it is not in (the power of) an messenger to bring a sign except by Allah’s permission; for every term there is an appointment.

    The verse 13:38 declares that all the messengers had wives and children. So Jesus was also married.

    http://ourbeacon.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=814&highlight=#814

    Surely Quran affirms that Jesus had Brother

    6:87 And We gave distinction to some of their ancestors, fathers, children, siblings and brothers and guided them to the Straight Path. (Ref: Arnold Yasin Mol)

    http://ourbeacon.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=344&highlight=

  4. October 2, 2007 at 7:29 pm

    QuoteThe Prophet Jesus Had Wife and Children

    وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا رُسُلاً مِّن قَبْلِكَ وَجَعَلْنَا لَهُمْ أَزْوَاجًا وَذُرِّيَّةً وَمَا كَانَ لِرَسُولٍ أَن يَأْتِيَ بِآيَةٍ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِ اللّهِ لِكُلِّ أَجَلٍ كِتَابٌ

    And We have sent messengers before you and We have made for them mates and offspring. It was not for a messenger to come with any sign except by God’s leave, but for every time there is a decree. 13:38

    The verse 13:38 declares that all the messengers had wives and children. So Jesus was also married.

    “And We have sent messengers before you and We have made for them mates and offspring”.

    We have Nuh (Noah), Hud (Eber), Saleh (Shaloh),Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma’il (Ishmael), Lut (Lot),Yousef (Joseph),Shu’aib (Jethro),Musa (Moses),Ilias (Elias), Yunus (Jonah), Isa(Jesus) and Muhammad defined as messengers in the Quran.

    and

    وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا رُسُلًا مِّن قَبْلِكَ مِنْهُم مَّن قَصَصْنَا عَلَيْكَ وَمِنْهُم مَّن لَّمْ نَقْصُصْ عَلَيْكَ وَمَا كَانَ لِرَسُولٍ أَنْ يَأْتِيَ بِآيَةٍ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ فَإِذَا جَاءَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ قُضِيَ بِالْحَقِّ وَخَسِرَ هُنَالِكَ الْمُبْطِلُونَ

    And We have sent messengers prior to you. Some of them We mentioned to you, and some We did not mention to you. And it was not given to any messenger that he should bring a sign except by God’s leave. So, when God’s judgment is issued, the matter is decided with truth, and the followers of falsehood will be lost. 40:78

    and

    اللَّهُ يَصْطَفِي مِنَ الْمَلَائِكَةِ رُسُلًا وَمِنَ النَّاسِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ سَمِيعٌ بَصِيرٌ

    God chooses messengers from amongst the Angels and from amongst mankind. God is Hearer, Seer. 22:75

    أَمْ خَلَقْنَا الْمَلَائِكَةَ إِنَاثًا وَهُمْ شَاهِدُونَ

    Or did We create the Angels as females while they witnessed? 37:150

    “We have sent messengers before you and We have made for them mates and offspring”
    “We have sent messengers prior to you. Some of them We mentioned to you, and some We did not mention to you”
    “God chooses messengers from amongst the Angels and from amongst mankind.”

    assuming that the Prophet Jesus and all messengers had wives and children is incorrect.

    “We have sent messengers before you and We have made for them mates and offspring”13:38

    the word “all” is not there and it could be applicable to any case of the thirteen defined messengers ( We mentioned to you ) or the messengers ( We did not mention to you ).

    مَا كَانَ لِرَسُولٍ أَنْ يَأْتِيَ بِآيَةٍ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ
    “it was not for a messenger to come with any sign except by God’s leave” 13:38 , 40:78

    ( مَا ) not and except ( إِلَّا ) , here we can say all messengers are sent with signs by God’s leave.

    Surely Quran affirms that Jesus had Brother

    وَمِنْ آبَائِهِمْ وَذُرِّيَّاتِهِمْ وَإِخْوَانِهِمْ وَاجْتَبَيْنَاهُمْ وَهَدَيْنَاهُمْ إِلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ

    And from their fathers and their progeny and their brothers We have also chosen; and We guided them to a straight path. 6:87

    “And from”( وَمِنْ )their fathers and their progeny and their brothers.
    again its not all of them (the names mentioned before) 6:82-87
    1. Nuh (Noah)
    2. Ibrahim (Abraham)
    3. Isma’il (Ishmael)
    4. Ishaq (Isaac)
    5. Lut (Lot)
    6. Ya’qub (Jacob)
    7. Yousef (Joseph)
    8. Ayyub (Job)
    9. Musa (Moses)
    10. Harun (Aaron)
    11. Dawud (David)
    12. Sulaiman (Solomon)
    13. Ilias (Elias)
    14. Al-Yasa (Elisha)
    15. Yunus (Jonah)
    16. Zakariyya (Zechariah)
    17. Yahya (John)
    18. ‘Isa (Jesus)

    QuoteSo it is better to call and translate Messiah Jesus, Ibn Mary instead of Messiah Jesus, son of Mary.

    Messiah Jesus, Ibn Mary
    Messiah Jesus, son of Mary

    Ibn – son of

    i don’t see the the difference ..

    bin is used sometimes by arabs but the Quran uses ibn all the time

    i don’t know why the one who protected her chastity is not a proof for a virgin birth.

    وَالَّتِي أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهَا مِن رُّوحِنَا وَجَعَلْنَاهَا وَابْنَهَا آيَةً لِّلْعَالَمِينَ

    And the one who protected her chastity, so We blew into her from Our Spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds. 21:91

    وَمَرْيَمَ ابْنَتَ عِمْرَانَ الَّتِي أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِنَا وَصَدَّقَتْ بِكَلِمَاتِ رَبِّهَا وَكُتُبِهِ وَكَانَتْ مِنَ الْقَانِتِينَ

    Also Mary, the daughter of Imran, who maintained her chastity. So We blew into her from Our spirit, and she believed in the words of her Lord and His Scriptures; and she was of those who were obedient. 66:12

    also, why did she go to a far place to deliver him (jesus) ?

    فَحَمَلَتْهُ فَانتَبَذَتْ بِهِ مَكَانًا قَصِيًّا

    So she was pregnant with him, and she went to deliver in a far place. 19:22

    فَأَجَاءَهَا الْمَخَاضُ إِلَى جِذْعِ النَّخْلَةِ قَالَتْ يَا لَيْتَنِي مِتُّ قَبْلَ هَذَا وَكُنتُ نَسْيًا مَّنسِيًّا

    Then the birth pains came to her, by the trunk of a palm tree. She said: “I wish I had died before this, and became totally forgotten!” 19:23

    why was Jesus something totally unexpected ?

    فَأَتَتْ بِهِ قَوْمَهَا تَحْمِلُهُ قَالُواْ يَا مَرْيَمُ لَقَدْ جِئْتِ شَيْئًا فَرِيًّا

    Then she came to her people carrying him. They said: “O Mary, you have come with something totally unexpected!” 19:27

    يَا أُخْتَ هَارُونَ مَا كَانَ أَبُوكِ امْرَأَ سَوْءٍ وَمَا كَانَتْ أُمُّكِ بَغِيًّا

    “O sister of Aaron, your father was not a bad man, and your mother was never unchaste!” 19:28

    Her people thought that she made a mistake but she to Jesus who is a child in a cradle

    فَأَشَارَتْ إِلَيْهِ قَالُوا كَيْفَ نُكَلِّمُ مَن كَانَ فِي الْمَهْدِ صَبِيًّا

    So she pointed to him. They said: “How can we talk to someone who is a child in a cradle?” 19:29

    Jesus who is a child in a cradle spoke to her people as a sign that she did not give a normal birth and she did nothing wrong

    قَالَ إِنِّي عَبْدُ اللَّهِ آتَانِيَ الْكِتَابَ وَجَعَلَنِي نَبِيًّا

    He said: “I am God’s servant, He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet.” 19:30

    i don’t see the problem with a virgin birth

    can you please explain

    peace

  5. 5 Rana Ammar Mazhar
    October 3, 2007 at 12:22 am

    The Qur’an As It Explains Itself (QXP).
    http://ourbeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/admin2/2007/08/qxp-iv.pdf

    Surah 19. Maryam – Mary, Page: 346
    [Author’s Note] This is the 19th Surah of the Qur’an. It has 98 verses.
    One of the important injunctions that clearly come through in this Surah is that God makes laws as He wills in the World of command and enforces them in the World of Creation i.e. the Universe. Then, He never changes them. The grand empire of human learning, development, invention, science and technology would have failed to come off ground if God’s physical laws in the Universe were to keep changing.
    Pregnancy, and childbirth require the unison of the male and the female chromosomes. God never changes His laws, therefore, the idea of a virgin birth, although popular among the Christians and the Muslims, is non-Qur’anic and absolutely erroneous. Mary, the mother of Jesus, is probably more often mentioned in the Qur’an than in the Bible, as a lady of outstanding determination and character. prophet Zachariah was the elder contemporary of Mary. Both descended from prophet Aaron. The families had been the custodians of the holy shrines in Can’aan (Palestine) Zachariah, a distant uncle was Mary’s guardian in the sanctuary. Jesus is referred to as son of Mary because his mother was more prominent and also because his father Joseph the carpenter, died at an early age. The Bible also refers to Jesus as son of man and as son of David, and Elizabeth wife of Zachariah is called the daughter of Aaron. Also, in the history of mankind Mary was the first revolutionary and that too, a feminine voice against the institution of monasticism that was never Divinely ordained.
    Before moving on, let us note a few salient points for the sake of clear understanding:
    (i) Mary was a descendant of prophet Aaron. Even generations after a prominent man, it was customary to call the descendants this way. In Luke 1:5 Elizabeth, the wife of prophet Zachariah, is referred to as “One of the daughters of Aaron”. That is why Mary is referred to as sister of Aaron in 19:28.
    (ii) In verse 19:23 it appears that Mary is talking to her husband. Violation of the sanctuary rules, a land far from home, lack of shelter and labor pains all add to her grief. Now a few important concepts given in the Qur’an that strongly negate the fallacy of the “Virgin Birth” of Jesus.
    (iii) God does all things according to His laws. [3:40,19:9].
    (iv) And you will never see God’s laws changing or deviating. [6:34, 6:116, 10:64, 17:77, 18:27, 33:38, 33:62, 35:43, 40:85, 48:23].
    (v) The example of Jesus, as far as God is concerned, is the same as that of Adam. He created him from dust; then said to him, “Be”, and he was. [3:59].
    (vi) By Adam is meant all mankind. [7:11].
    (vii) All men are created from dust, then from a zygote, male and female. [22:5].
    (viii) The Qur’an emphatically and repeatedly states that all human beings are procreated from both male and female, without exceptions.
    (ix) Even God would not have an offspring since He never had a mate. [6:101].
    (x) Verse 19:22 narrates Mary moving far-off from her village.
    Since Mary had broken the rules of the shrine, she and her family kept the marriage with Joseph Carpenter confidential. When she became pregnant, the husband and wife decided to move far away to avoid the mockery of people.
    With the Glorious Name of God, the Instant and Sustaining Source of all mercy and Kindness.

  6. October 3, 2007 at 1:30 am

    In verse 19:23 it appears that Mary is talking to her husband. Violation of the sanctuary rules, a land far from home, lack of shelter and labor pains all add to her grief. Now a few important concepts given in the Qur’an that strongly negate the fallacy of the “Virgin Birth” of Jesus.

    this is poor understanding of the context of the verse

    فَأَجَاءَهَا الْمَخَاضُ إِلَى جِذْعِ النَّخْلَةِ قَالَتْ يَا لَيْتَنِي مِتُّ قَبْلَ هَذَا وَكُنتُ نَسْيًا مَّنسِيًّا

    Then the birth pains came to her, by the trunk of a palm tree. She said: “I wish I had died before this, and became totally forgotten!” 19:23

    فَنَادَاهَا مِن تَحْتِهَا أَلاَّ تَحْزَنِي قَدْ جَعَلَ رَبُّكِ تَحْتَكِ سَرِيًّا

    But then he called to her from beneath her: “Do not be sad, your Lord has made below you a stream.” 19:24

    وَهُزِّي إِلَيْكِ بِجِذْعِ النَّخْلَةِ تُسَاقِطْ عَلَيْكِ رُطَبًا جَنِيًّا

    “And shake the trunk of this palm tree, it will cause ripe dates to fall upon you.” 19:25

    فَكُلِي وَاشْرَبِي وَقَرِّي عَيْنًا فَإِمَّا تَرَيِنَّ مِنَ الْبَشَرِ أَحَدًا فَقُولِي إِنِّي نَذَرْتُ لِلرَّحْمَنِ صَوْمًا فَلَنْ أُكَلِّمَ الْيَوْمَ إِنسِيًّا

    “So eat and drink and be happy. If you see any human being, then Say: “I have declared a fast for the Almighty, and I will not talk today to any of mankind.”” 19:26

    she is not talking to her husband, she is talking to God and God is telling her to say “I have declared a fast for the Almighty, and I will not talk today to any of mankind.”

    and 19:20 is a proof that Jesus is not the son of any human being

    قَالَتْ أَنَّى يَكُونُ لِي غُلاَمٌ وَلَمْ يَمْسَسْنِي بَشَرٌ وَلَمْ أَكُ بَغِيًّا

    She said: “How can I have a son when no man has touched me, nor do I desire such?” 19:20

    peace

  7. October 3, 2007 at 3:44 am

    “19:19. He said: I am only a messenger of your Lord: That I will give you a pure boy.

    19:20. She said: When shall I have a boy and no mortal has yet touched me, nor have I been unchaste?

    19:21. He said: Even so; your Lord says: It is easy to Me: and that We may make him a sign to men and a mercy from Us, and it is a matter which has been decreed.

    19:22. So she conceived him; then withdrew herself with him to a remote place.

    19:23. And the throes compelled her to betake herself to the trunk of a palm tree. She said: Oh, would that I had died before this, and had been a thing quite forgotten!

    19:24. Then called out to her from beneath her: Grieve not, surely your Lord has made a stream to flow beneath you;

    19:25. And shake towards you the trunk of the palmtree, it will drop on you fresh ripe dates:

    19:26. So eat and drink and refresh the eye. Then if you see any mortal, say: Surely I have vowed a fast to the Beneficent Allah, so I shall not speak to any man today. ”

    I am not sure who is talking with Mary in these ayaths. In 19:19 conversation is started by a messenger at the time she is informed that she is going to give a birth, but it is not definite who is talking to Mary from 19:24 at the time of delivery. He/she can be Allah, angel or even Jesus.

    ” All men are created from dust, then from a zygote, male and female. [22:5].” Yes, they are, however, it is sure that Allah (or angels with Allah’s order and permission) has the power to place the male gamete into a female’s uterus without she is having intercourse with a man.

    But, this does not make Allah anybody’s father. Let’s think about this way: Can a sculptor be considered as the natural father/mother of his/her sculptures? No. Since sculpture and sculptor are created from different material, naturally, they cannot be related as father and child. How ridiculous would it be to assume the SCULPTOR is made by the same material as SCULPTURE are made like bronze, stone, marble, limestone, porphyry, or granite!

    In Jesus’ example it is even more obvious: Can Creator be the father of a creature?!

    Hope my ideas works,
    Peace

  8. October 3, 2007 at 3:59 am

    19:24. Then called out to her from beneath her: Grieve not, surely your Lord has made a stream to flow beneath you;

    “Then called out to her from beneath her” the conversation is continuing from verses 17
    https://pressthat.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/personalities-renowned-by-mother-names/#comment-1114

    “God’s spirit”(19:17) is talking to Maryam
    he said
    she said

  9. October 3, 2007 at 6:01 am

    It is a messenger (Archangel Gabriel-Angel Gibril) from 19:17 to 19:23 when Mary is being informed what it is going to happen, but, I cannot be sure who is talking beginning from 19:23 at the birth. What do you think?

  10. October 3, 2007 at 7:30 am

    i think that it was the holy spirit , and Mary was alone


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