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Oct
07

Don’t Blame the “Jews”

Another disturbing trend that is heavily propagated by extremists and accepted by many naive Arabs and Muslims is the blaming of all Muslim problems on the Jews. There are numerous examples for this but most recently news broadcasts out of Iraq quoted Iraqi victims of violence who blamed the bombings on Jews or a Jewish conspiracy.Many Arabs and Muslims still blame the 9-11 attacks on a Jewish conspiracy that was allegedly perpetrated to demonize Arabs and Muslims in the eyes of the world.

One of the most recent and tragic examples of unjustified hate towards Jews was the brutal murder of Daniel Pearl. Daniel Pearl was a journalist murdered by Islamic extremists in Pakistan who had never met a Jew, and the only knowledge they had about Jews was the tireless propaganda from Muslim extremists throughout the world blaming Jews for all of the world�s problems. The extremists targeted and murdered Daniel Pearl because he was a Jew.

Our research indicates that one of the modern origins of this trend is the mutual demonization by Israelis and Arabs of each other to gain global support for each other’s causes. This pattern includes the Arab media’s ceaseless reference to the falsified document, the Protocols of Zion. The Coalition strongly urges Muslims and Arabs to refrain from demonizing Jews and stop blaming Jews for all of the world’s problems. The Coalition also urges Israelis to stop demonizing Arabs and Muslims who peacefully advocate for the rights of Palestinians.


20 Responses to “Don’t Blame the “Jews””


  1. October 3, 2007 at 7:19 am

    Muslims are supposed to have nothing to do with Jews. Blame British…

    I suspect that Christians are the developers of this battle between Muslims and Jews. 🙂

  2. October 3, 2007 at 7:26 am

    Not me, Lyndon H. LaRouche says Britishs are responsible for all of the world’s problems.🙂

    I am not a supporter of LaRouche, but sometimes what he says makes sense to me.

    http://www.larouchepub.com/

    http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2007/09/17/reminder-larouche-british-factions-are-out-destroy-usa.html

  3. 3 Eagle
    October 4, 2007 at 5:16 pm

    Hey, nice post!😀 Mind if I copy it and put it on one of my blogs?? I will give the credit to you.

    Also, are you aware that Shiva considers you a Jew hater??

  4. October 4, 2007 at 5:51 pm

    i don’t mind eagle

    please copy
    🙂

  5. 5 salahudin
    October 10, 2007 at 3:29 am

    what coalition? :S

  6. 7 salahudin
    October 11, 2007 at 2:04 am

    oooh! nice… although i must ask.. when they say:

    “The Free Muslims Coalition does not seek to change the tenets of the religion. However, the Coalition believes that the Koran only provides general principals of governance which leaves the faithful with substantial flexibility to modernize popular Muslim practices and beliefs.”

    how do they overcome the theological basis for establishing the sharia… because the quran is full of religious injunctions about how to live your life…

  7. October 11, 2007 at 2:50 am

    the current sharia is not based on the Quran, here is an example for the sharia based on the Quran

    http://free-minds.org/Constitution_Iraq/English.pdf

    please point out any injunctions from the example or the Quran

  8. 9 salahudin
    October 11, 2007 at 3:48 am

    that constitution says:

    “The Qur’an shall be the basis for this Constitution and shall be the source for all the
    republic’s legislation and laws.2″

    and then it says:

    Freedom of Speech
    All persons have the right of free speech, freedom of the press, the right to
    assemble, and the right to protest peacefully.”3”

    “3” Qur’an 71:5-9

    but 71:5-9 says the following according to the University of Michigan’s Shakir translation:

    [71.5] He said: O my Lord! surely I have called my people by night and by day!
    [71.6] But my call has only made them flee the more:
    [71.7] And whenever I have called them that Thou mayest forgive them, they put their fingers in their ears, cover themselves with their garments, and persist and are puffed up with pride:
    [71.8] Then surely I called to them aloud:
    [71.9] Then surely I spoke to them in public and I spoke to them in secret:

    there is no injunction there that supports freedom of speech of human beings… the “source” of that law is totally and hilariously ambiguous.

    that’s the FIRST thing i saw as i merely GLANCED at it… i would have done more but i don’t have time.

    so if the “coalition” supports this kind of constitution, why don’t they just be man enough to admit they like the idea of liberalism and are adopting such ideals based on Thomas Aquinas and/or Hobbes’ or even John Rawls’ works…?

    Why put the hijab of quranic verses on ideals that are great on their OWN MERIT…?

    you know what i’m saying?

    eg: why show “kindness” to be good because it’s in the quran… when we all know it’s a good thing on its own…

  9. October 11, 2007 at 4:50 am

    Quote“when we all know it’s a good thing on its own”

    i think that today you can ask a doctor about what to eat

    ask a psychiatrist why is cheating wrong

    you can read books and see for yourself

    and yet you can not be perfect.

    look back 1400 years and ask the same questions

    ask any question and see if we can all have the same answer so that we can all agree on whats a good thing on its own.

    Freedom of Speech

    وَلاَ تَسُبُّواْ الَّذِينَ يَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِ اللّهِ فَيَسُبُّواْ اللّهَ عَدْوًا بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ كَذَلِكَ زَيَّنَّا لِكُلِّ أُمَّةٍ عَمَلَهُمْ ثُمَّ إِلَى رَبِّهِم مَّرْجِعُهُمْ فَيُنَبِّئُهُم بِمَا كَانُواْ يَعْمَلُونَ

    And do not insult those who call on other than God, lest they insult God without knowledge. And We have similarly adorned for every nation their works; then to their Lord is their return and He will inform them of what they had done. 6:108

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=6&vid=108

    وَإِذَا سَمِعُوا اللَّغْوَ أَعْرَضُوا عَنْهُ وَقَالُوا لَنَا أَعْمَالُنَا وَلَكُمْ أَعْمَالُكُمْ سَلَامٌ عَلَيْكُمْ لَا نَبْتَغِي الْجَاهِلِينَ

    And if they come across vain talk, they disregard it and Say: “To us are our deeds, and to you is your deeds. Peace be upon you. We do not seek the ignorant.” 28:55

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=28&vid=55

    وَلَا تُجَادِلُوا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ إِلَّا بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ إِلَّا الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا مِنْهُمْ وَقُولُوا آمَنَّا بِالَّذِي أُنزِلَ إِلَيْنَا وَأُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُمْ وَإِلَهُنَا وَإِلَهُكُمْ وَاحِدٌ وَنَحْنُ لَهُ مُسْلِمُونَ

    And do not argue with the people of the Scripture except in the best manner; except for those who are wicked amongst them; and Say: “We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you, and our god and your god is the same; to Him we surrender.” 29:46

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=29&vid=46

  10. 11 salahudin
    October 11, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    1- you aren’t clear what you’re implying by your analogies
    2- the only thing you’re “clear” about is “if everyone thinks for themselves, then there won’t be order” which is an erroneous and backwards belief most muslims have because they’re so used to replacing their moral consciousness (and hence what makes them HUMAN, over mere ANIMALS) with “docile obedience to whatever authority”. It is an empirical fact that individualism, liberalism and truly secular democracies work FAR better than authoritarian systems like islam and even political dictatorships. go research on individualism and the protestant movement…🙂
    3- you did NOT show me how the Iraqi constitution – which you forwarded as an example of endorsement by the “coalition of diet muslims” is actually consistent with itself… since i just pointed out a huge discrepancy in it: absolutely arbitrary and vague references to the quran as the source of “freedom of speech”… it just goes to show that whoever wrote the constitution:

    a) doesn’t know much about the koran – because if so, he or she would have chosen a slightly LESS vague reference!
    b) is literally borrowing from SECULAR ideals of liberalism and civil liberties while trying to give it an ISLAMIC veneer to make it palatable to a backwards people – muslim world – who really just have a huge ego and so can’t accept WESTERN ideals without somehow claiming those ideals stem from their OWN system.

    If you would like to refute what i’m saying then your job is obvious: show me how the iraqi constitution’s reference to that particular verse is RELEVANT and why quranic reference even NEEDS to be there, when the ideal of “freedom of speech” is CLEARLY being borrowed from secular political ideals!!!

    if you can do that, then the reputation of the “coalition of diet muslims” which is on stake (since you’re the one who staked it on the iraqi constitution!) can be respected.

    PS: i’m not here to arguing that islam is AGAINST freespeech – it IS – the issue here is your claims about the coalition having a sound theological backing and its endorsement of the iraqi constitution which is a complete sham so far…

  11. October 11, 2007 at 5:03 pm

    “and the right to protest peacefully”

    when Noah wanted to warn his people

    – I have called my people by night and by day
    – I have called them that Thou mayest forgive them
    – I called to them aloud
    – I spoke to them in public and I spoke to them in secret

    that doesn’t sound like a peaceful protest to you .

    the coalition and constitution are not my work and i’m not here to defend all their ideas.

    but i can see that the message in the Quran is not an obstacle like sharia and there is nothing wrong in borrowing ideas from westerners as long as they do not contradict the Quranic teachings.

  12. 13 salahudin
    October 11, 2007 at 6:26 pm

    so now you’re disavowing the iraqi constitution eh?

    if that’s the case then the coalition’s endorsement of it isn’t a smart move at all…!!! so much for the intellectual capability of the so-called “coalition” !😛

    and thank you for finally admitting that it’s okay to learn from sources OUTSIDE the quran, but maybe you should take ANOTHER rational step forward and speak out against giving western ideals needless islamic veneers…

  13. October 12, 2007 at 5:14 am

    “[71.5] He said: O my Lord! surely I have called my people by night and by day!”

    But, they ignored Noah in absolute freedom, no matter Noah was RIGHT.

    “[71.6] But my call has only made them flee the more:”

    But, they were free and even did not listen Noah regardless Noah was calling them to the TRUTH.

    “[71.7] And whenever I have called them that Thou mayest forgive them, they put their fingers in their ears, cover themselves with their garments, and persist and are puffed up with pride:

    Still, they were employing their freedom of speech by their ignorant reactions.

    “[71.8] Then surely I called to them aloud:”

    It did not work because Noah’s PEOPLE CHOSE TO DENY him.

    “[71.9] Then surely I spoke to them in public and I spoke to them in secret:”

    Since Noah had the freedom of speech as his people, Noah continued to make statements and his people continued to use their freedom in the aim of to not to listen him.

    And you said:

    <there is no injunction there that supports freedom of speech of <human beings… the “source” of that law is totally and <hilariously ambiguous.

    And when indication of freedom of speech in the Qur’an has been proven, then you claimed:

    <PS: i’m not here to arguing that islam is AGAINST freespeech

    Qur’an does not need to openly indicate ‘freedom of speech’ as it does in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, because ‘freedom of speech’ is accepted as a NATURAL AND FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT for human, as it is shown throughout the history of the divine revelation: Their people always denied the prophets in FREEDOM and LIBERTY.

    So, Qur’an assumed that its readers are going to already understand that even Allah’s messengers can be denied in by employing FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

  14. December 18, 2007 at 9:16 am

    The Risale-i Nur collection is a six-thousand-page commentary on the Quran written by Bediuzzaman Said Nursi in accordance with the mentality of the age.

    DOWNLOAD Risale-i Nur Pdf books
    Just click the links below
    http://www.risale-i-nur.org

  15. 18 Salahudin al-Rawandi
    December 18, 2007 at 3:04 pm

    sukran, that’s the most ridiculous argument i’ve heard in a while!😛 totally cut off not only from the historic context but the utter lack of understanding of islam

  16. December 18, 2007 at 6:51 pm

    Thank you for your support Hasan, Allah razi olsun.

  17. December 19, 2007 at 12:40 am

    Which argument are you mentioning? Could you explain your point a little more, Salahudin?


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