11
May
07

What Is Salat?

 By Layth (e-mail: laytth@hotmail.com)

The word “Salat” and its derivates occur in the Scripture over 70 times and is emphasized by God Almighty as a critical aspect for the spiritual development and progress of believers.

This article will attempt to construct the full details of Salat (timings, form, words, etc.) using the Scripture as the only source of reference…

History Of Salat

As our reading of the Scripture shows, the history of Salat for humankind can be traced all the way back to the days of our father Abraham who was taught this medium and recognized its benefits:

“‘Praise be to God who has granted me in my old age Ishmael and Isaac. My Lord is the hearer of prayers. My Lord, let me honor the Salat, and also from my progeny. Our Lord, accept my prayer.” (The Message 14:39-40)

Shu’ayb was also aware of the Salat as he is accused by his people of receiving instructions through it:

“They said: ‘O Shu’ayb, does your Salat order you that we leave what our fathers served, or that we do not do with our money as we please? You are the compassionate, the sane!'” (The Message 11:87)

The Children of Israel are all commanded to honor the Salat:

“And honor the Salat, and contribute towards betterment, and kneel with those who kneel.” (The Message 2:43)

Jesus promises to keep the Salat as long as he lives:

“‘And He made me blessed wherever I was, and He charged me with the Salat and towards betterment as long as I am alive.'” (The Message 19:31)

What Is Salat?

Looking at the various verses on the subject, we find the following information:

  • Salt is held at specific times – (24:58, 11:114, and 17:78)

  • Salat involves physical preparation– (5:6)

  • Salat has a structure and a place to be carried out in – (3:39, 4:102)

  • Salat involves the recitation of the Scripture – (29:45)

  • Salat is conducted in a moderate tone – (17:110)

  • Salat involves physical bowing and prostrating – (2:43, 4:102)

  • Salat ends with specific words being mentioned – (17:111)

  • Salat can be shortened or conducted on the move in cases of emergency – (2:239, 4:101)

 As such, we find that Salat is a:

 

Physical act designed to seek God’s guidance through the recitation of the Scripture at specific times in the day.

Attendees of Salat

Sunni and Shia scholars have been promoting the notion that Salat is an obligation on every adult male and female to be carried out until death.

While there is no doubt that any person may attend the Salat if he/she wishes, a study of the Scripture reveals that the audience for Salat is not every Muslim man and woman who has reached adulthood, but rather, it is an obligation for those Muslims who have advanced to the stage of being Mumins (believers).

“O you who believe, do not approach the Salat while you are intoxicated, until you know what you are saying. Nor if you have had intercourse, unless traveling, until you bathe. And if you are ill, or traveling, or one of you has excreted feces, or you had sexual contact with the women, and could not find water, then you shall select from the clean soil; you shall wipe your faces and hands. God is Pardoning, Forgiving.” (The Message 4:43)

“So when you are done making the Salat, then remember God while standing, or sitting, or on your sides; then, when you are relieved, you shall honor the Salat. Indeed, the Salat for the believers is a timed decree.” (The Message 4:103)

While most people may not realize the difference, the Scripture has made a clear distinction between ‘Muslims’ (those who simply have submitted to God) and ‘Mumins’ (those who have advanced and strive with their wealth and lives in the sake of God):

The Nomads said: ‘We believe.’ Say: ‘You have not believed; but you should Say: ‘We have submitted (Aslamna)’, for belief has not yet entered into your hearts.’ If you obey God and His messenger, He will not put any of your works to waste. God is Forgiver, Merciful. Believers (Muninoon) are those who believe in God and His messenger, then they became without doubt, and they strive with their money and their lives in the cause of God. These are the truthful ones.” (The Message 49:14-15)

Timing of Salat

According to the Scripture, the Salat is held three times daily (before sunrise, before sunset, early night).

1.      Dawn Salat – Fajr (24:58, 11:114)

2.      Middle Salat – Wusta (2:238, 17:78)

3.      Night Salat – Isha (24:58, 11:114)

 

“O you who believe, let those who are committed to you by oath, and those who have not yet attained puberty, request your permission regarding three times: before the Dawn Salat, and when you put off your attire from the noon time, and after the Evening Salat. These are three private times for you. Other than these times, it is not wrong for you or them to intermingle with one another. God thus clarifies the revelations for you. And God is Knowledgeable, Wise.” (The Message 24:58)

“And you shall hold the Salat during the two edges of the day, and during the near part of the night. The good deeds take away the bad. This is a reminder to those who remember.” (The Message 11:114)

“Maintain the Salawaat, and the Middle Salat; and stand devoutly for God.” (The Message 2:238)

“You shall hold the Salat during the setting of the sun till the twilight; and the Quran at dawn; the Quran at dawn is witnessed.” (The Message 17:78)

The Call to Salat

A call is made just ahead of the designated time to alert the believing men and women of the need to prepare for the Salat. The form and words of this call has been left to the discretion of the people to decide as is convenient and suitable for them.

“And if you call to the Salat, they take it as fun and games. That is because they are a people who do not understand.” (The Message 5:58)

“O you who believe, when the Salat is called to from the day of gathering, then you shall hasten towards the remembrance of God, and cease all selling. This is better for you, if you only knew.”  (The Message 62:9)

Location for Salat

The prime location where the Salat takes place is at the ‘temples’ that have been designated for such purpose. Although the Salat can be carried out in the home or even on the move (see 4:101), preference is given to the temples where people would gather for such purpose.

“The Angels called to him whilst he was standing making the Salat in the temple enclosure: ‘God gives you good tidings of John, authenticating the word from God, and a master, and steadfast, and a prophet from the upright.’” (The Message 3:39)

“And the temples are for God, so do not call on anyone with God.” (The Message 72:18)

Preparation for Salat

The Salat has a specific set of rules which need to be observed by those attending it.

a. Clean Yourself

“O you who believe, if you rise to hold the Salat, then wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, and wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles; and if you have had intercourse, then you shall bathe. And if you are ill, or traveling, or you have excreted feces, or you have had sexual contact with the women, and you could not find water, then you shall select from the clean soil; you shall wipe your faces and your hands with it. God does not want to make any hardship over you, but He wants to cleanse you and to complete His blessings upon you that you may be appreciative.” (The Message 5:6)

b. Be In a Sober State of Mind

“O you who believe, do not approach the Salat while you are intoxicated, until you know what you are saying. Nor if you have had intercourse, unless traveling, until you bathe. And if you are ill, or traveling, or one of you has excreted feces, or you had sexual contact with the women, and could not find water, then you shall select from the clean soil; you shall wipe your faces and hands. God is Pardoning, Forgiving.” (The Message 4:43)

The Method of Salat

Now that we are ready to carry out the Salat, it is time to look at the Scripture for the details of what is to be done…

a. Organization / Leadership

The act of Salat, if being done in a group, must have a leader (Imam). We can see that the Prophet Mohammed followed this system when he led the Salat for the believers during the time of war:

“And if you are with them and you hold the Salat for them, then let a group from amongst them stand with you and let them bring their weapons; and when they have prostrated then let them stand guard from behind; and let a group who has not yet held the Salat come and hold the Salat with you, and let them be wary and let them bring their weapons with them. The rejecters hope that you would neglect your weapons and goods so they can come upon you in one blow. There is no sin upon you if you are impeded by rainfall, or if you are ill, that you place down your weapons. And be wary. God has prepared for the rejecters a humiliating retribution.” (The Message 4:102)

If the act of Salat is done individually (as seen by Zachariah’s actions below), then there is no need for any organizing structure.

“The Angels called to him whilst he was standing making the Salat in the temple enclosure: ‘God gives you good tidings of John, authenticating the word from God, and a master, and steadfast, and a prophet from the upright.’”  (The Message 3:39)

b. Face the Focal Point (Qibla)

Individuals or groups holding the Salat must conform to a unifying direction which is faced…The direction that is to be faced by the believers as decreed by God through the Prophet Mohammed is towards the Restricted Temple at Bakk’a which has been declared as the focal point for our Salat:

“We see the shifting of your face towards the sky; We will thus set for you a focal point that will be pleasing to you: ‘You shall set yourself towards the Restricted Temple; and wherever you may be, you shall all set yourselves towards it.’ Those who have been given the Scripture know it is the truth from their Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.” (The Message 2:144)

“And We have made the Sanctuary to be a model for the people and a security. And you shall take the site of Abraham as a Musalla (for Salat). And We had entrusted to Abraham and Ishmael: “You shall purify My Sanctuary for those who visit, those who are devoted, and for those who kneel and prostrate.” (The Message 2:125)

c. Be In a Stationary Standing Position

The normal position is for the Salat to be carried out while stationary and standing: 

“The Angels called to him whilst he was standing making the Salat in the temple enclosure: ‘God gives you good tidings of John, authenticating the word from God, and a master, and steadfast, and a prophet from the upright.’”  (The Message 3:39)

Use a Moderate Tone

The person leading the Salat or the individual carrying it out on his own must do so in a moderate and audible tone rather than being silent or noisy:

“Say: ‘Call on God or call on the Almighty. Whichever it is you call on, for to Him are the best names.” And do not be too loud in making your Salat, nor too quite; but seek a path in between.’” (The Message 17:110)

Reciting the Scripture

The key element of Salat, after the remembrance of God, is the recitation of the Scripture for all to hear and learn:

Relate what is inspired to you of the Scripture, and hold the Salat – for the Salat prohibits evil and vice; but certainly the remembrance of God is the greatest. God knows everything you do.” (The Message 29:45)

“You shall hold the Salat during the setting of the sun till the twilight; and the Quran at dawn; the Quran at dawn is witnessed.” (The Message 17:78)

The Scripture does not specify any specific passages to be read during the Salat, therefore, any recitation from the Scripture is deemed acceptable.

Bowing and Prostrating (Twice)

The method for Salat found in the Quran involves the act of physical prostration twice during each Salat. This can be seen in the example of the Prophet whereby he led the Salat making two prostrations, while those who were shortening the Salat due to the situation of war were only making one prostration. The act of bowing naturally precedes the act of prostration:

“And honor the Salat, and contribute towards betterment, and kneel with those who kneel.” (The Message 2:43)

“And if you are with them and you hold the Salat for them, then let a group from amongst them stand with you and let them bring their weapons; and when they have prostrated then let them stand guard from behind; and let a group who has not yet held the Salat come and hold the Salat with you, and let them be wary and let them bring their weapons with them. The rejecters hope that you would neglect your weapons and goods so they can come upon you in one blow. There is no sin upon you if you are impeded by rainfall, or if you are ill, that you place down your weapons. And be wary. God has prepared for the rejecters a humiliating retribution.” (The Message 4:102)

Ending the Salat

Before ending the Salat there are specific words that are to be said:

“Say: ‘Call on God or call on the Almighty. Whichever it is you call on, for to Him are the best names.’ And do not be too loud in making your Salat, nor too quite; but seek a path in between. And Say: ‘Praise be to God who has not taken a son, nor does He have a partner in sovereignty, nor does He have an ally out of weakness.’ And glorify Him greatly.” (The Message 17:110-111)

The above saying refutes the false claims that are being made to this day by the various groups:

  • That God has a son (Christians).

  • That God has a partner (Sunnis and Shias).

  • That God is weak (Jews).

The Salat is then ended with the glorification of God: ‘God is great’.

After Salat

At the end of the Salat, the person or people that are in attendance are to reflect upon God and on the words that have been recited:

“So when you are done making the Salat, then remember God while standing, or sitting, or on your sides; then, when you are relieved, you shall honor the Salat. Indeed, the Salat for the believers is a timed decree.”  (The Message 4:103)

Exceptions to the Normal Structure of Salat

In cases of fear or worry, permission is granted for the believers to perform the Salat on the move while walking or even sitting (this would naturally rule out bowing and prostrating). In cases of travel, permission is granted to shorten the Salat to one unit if there is a concern of danger:

“Maintain the Salawaat, and the Middle Salat; and stand devoutly for God. But if you are in a state of worry, then you may do so while walking or riding. If you become secure, then remember God as He has taught you what you did not know.” (The Message 2:238-239)

“And if you go-forth in the land, then there is no harm that you shorten from the Salat, if you fear that the disbelievers will try you. The disbelievers are to you a clear enemy.” (The Message 4:101)

In cases where prostrating is difficult due to the terrain being wet/muddy or the person being ill, then permission is granted to avoid prostration.

“And if you are with them and you hold the Salat for them, then let a group from amongst them stand with you and let them bring their weapons; and when they have prostrated then let them stand guard from behind; and let a group who has not yet held the Salat come and hold the Salat with you, and let them be wary and let them bring their weapons with them. The rejecters hope that you would neglect your weapons and goods so they can come upon you in one blow. There is no sin upon you if you are impeded by rainfall, or if you are ill, that you place down your weapons. And be wary. God has prepared for the rejecters a humiliating retribution.” (The Message 4:102)

IMPORTANT REMINDER:

Please note that the entire Salat must be dedicated to God and none other but God, therefore, it is advisable not to follow in the footsteps of the Sunnis and Shia who nullify their Salat by glorifying the prophet or his family…God Alone is the key to our happiness in this life and the next:

“Say: ‘My Salat, and my offerings, and my life, and my death, are all to God the Lord of the worlds.’” (The Message 6:162)

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Other Issues / Misc.

 

Why do Sunnis and Shia have 5 Salat times?

The Sunnis are primarily followers of the books of Hadith (see chapter 2) and as such, they have it in their Hadith books that the Salat was decreed to the Prophet Mohammed on the night that he ascended to heaven – ignoring the many verses that speak of the prophets and people before Mohammed knowing the Salat!

In any case, the Sunni Hadith books have the Prophet receiving fifty Salat times from God, which, with the help of the bargaining skills from Moses, the Prophet manages to bargain down to a mere five Salat times per day.

It is worth noting that although the Sunnis carry-out five Salat times, they are completely silent in their recitation during the noon and afternoon Salat, while their recitation during the three authentic times (dawn, dusk, night) are done in an audible voice.

With regards to the Shia, although they are not directly followers of Hadith (they follow their Imams zealously), it seems that at some point they yielded to the numerical superiority of the Sunnis and compromised by agreeing that while there maybe five Salats per day, they are to be carried out only at three times during the day (hence they combine the five times into three).

 

What about Salat for the Christians and Jews?

The Christians have abandoned all laws found in the Torah based on the teachings of St. Paul that the acceptance of Christ as Lord and Savior releases people from the old covenant (hence Christians may eat pork and carry out other such acts in defiance of the laws of the Torah).

With regards to Judaism, we still find records of an act which appears to fit the description of Salat being carried out three times per day:

“Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house; and his windows being open in his chamber toward Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his knees three times a day, and prayed, and gave thanks before his God, as he did aforetime.” (Daniel 6:10)

Can Women Lead Salat?

The foundation of God’s system is that all things are permissible unless God has stated otherwise. With regards to women leading the Salat in a group setting, there is no restriction or command that can be found stating any distinction between men and women in this subject.  

“And the believing men and women, they are allies to one another. They order good and deter from evil, and they honor the Salat, and they contribute towards betterment and they obey God and His messenger. God will have mercy on them; God is Noble, Wise.” (The Message 9:71)

Why is there no Salat during the Day?

Whether people know it or not, they are all ‘physically’ prostrating to God during the daytime hours as determined by the movement of their shadows from the morning all the way till the late afternoon:

“Did they not see that anything God creates, its shadow inclines to the right and the left in prostration to God, while they may resent it?” (The Message 16:48)

“And to God prostrate all who are in the heavens and the Earth, willingly and unwillingly, as do their shadows in the morning and the evening.” (The Message 13:15)

As such, there is an act of ‘forced prostration’ occurring for all of God’s creation, even the humans who may refuse to acknowledge God and willingly prostrate to Him…However, during the times where there is no longer any natural movement of the shadow (just before sunrise, during sunset, and night time), the human being who prostrates is making a conscious decision of submission and surrender to the glory of the Creator.

What About Reading/Studying the Scripture at Other Times?

Some people may fear that, without having more fixed times to hold the Salat, the Scripture will be abandoned as people become busy with other aspects of their lives.

This line of thinking is flawed in that it disregards so many verses in the Scripture that encourage and recommend its reading and study especially during the night-time when the person may have free time:

“Your Lord knows that you rise a little less than two thirds of the night, and half of it, and one third of it, as well as a group of those who are with you. And God measures the night and the day. He knows that you will not be able to keep-up, so He pardons you. So read what is made easy of the Quran. He knows that there will be sick among you, and others that go-forth in the land seeking from God’s bounty, and others who are fighting in the cause of God, so read what you can of it. And honor the Salat and contribute towards betterment and give God a loan of righteousness. And whatever you put forth yourselves, you will find it with God, for it is better and a greater reward. And seek God’s forgiveness, for God is Forgiving, Merciful.” (The Message 73:20)

The option of reading the Scripture is encouraged/recommended of all Muslims and students  of the Scripture whenever the chance permits…

What about the Jum’a (Friday) Salat?

The Friday Salat has become so embedded in the culture of today’s Muslims that it is almost impossible that it would be given a 2nd thought…Yet, the ‘7-day week’ has no basis from the Scripture or its calendar system (which details the day, month, and year) but is derived from the merger of the Biblical ‘7-days of creation’ and the Roman ‘7-day week’ where the week represented the known planets (Saturn, Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus).

The Scripture does not support the bible in this matter as the universe was created in ‘6-days’ and God did not need to rest on the ‘7th day’:

“And We have created the heavens and the Earth and what is between them in six days, and no fatigue touched Us.” (The Message 50:38)

The verse which the Muslim scholars use to promote a special ‘Friday Prayer’ is 62:9, for which the literal translation is:

“O you who believe, when the Salat is called to from the day of gathering, then you shall hasten towards the remembrance of God, and cease all selling. This is better for you, if you only knew.” (The Message 62:9)

There is no ‘Friday’ in this verse, but there is a call to the believers that even if they are in the middle of a gathering or with people due to community or celebration or trade, they should take the time to attend the affirmation and leave what they are being pre-occupied with. This is also consistent with the command found in verse 24:36 below:

“In sanctuaries that God has allowed to be raised and His name mentioned in them. He is glorified therein day and night. Men who are not distracted by trade or sale from the remembrance of God and holding the Salat, and contributing towards betterment. They fear a Day when the hearts and sight will be overturned.” (The Message 24:36-37)

Why is the “Middle” Salat More Important than the Others?

[Yusufali Translation]: “Guard strictly your prayers (salawaat), especially the Middle Prayer (Salat); and stand before Allah in a devout (frame of mind).” (2:238)

The middle Salat has been given its own separate mention in 17:78 whereas all three Salat times are otherwise combined together such as we see in 11:114.

The question that needs to be asked is: what makes this Salat time more important or special than the others?

The answer that is found in the Scripture is that the Middle Salat (i.e. during dusk) is a time when people are generally more preoccupied than any other time. We can see a live example of this distraction occurring even with great prophets such as Solomon who became pre-occupied during dusk (the time of the Middle Salat) with horses that were being displayed for him and lost track of the need to hold the oath to God:

“And to David We granted Solomon. What an excellent and obedient servant. When, close to dusk, well trained horses were displayed before him. He then said: ‘I have enjoyed materialism more than I enjoyed the remembrance of my Lord; now the sun has totally set! Send them back.’ He then rubbed their legs and necks.” (The Message 38:30-33) 

What About the Command Issued in 9:5?

While we have pointed out that the medium of Salat has been specifically mentioned for the advanced group known as ‘Mimimeen’ (believers), there is one aspect of Salat that encompasses all people who live and work under the system of Islam.

That command is to ‘honor the Salat’ as can be seen in verse 9:5 which has been issued for people who may not even be Muslims:

“So when the restricted months have passed, then you may kill those who have set up partners wherever you find them, and take them, and surround them, and stand against them at every point. If they repent, and honor “aqamo[1]” the Salat, and contribute towards betterment, then you shall leave them alone. God is Forgiving, Merciful.” (The Message 9:5)

Honoring of the Salat is the act of upholding the very words and laws that are being recited and uttered through this medium. People living under the system of Islam (even if they are not Muslims themselves) will be required to adhere to the laws and regulations of the Scripture just as people living in the USA or Europe or Africa or Asia are required to uphold the laws of such nations/states even though they may not agree with them.

Summary Of Salat

Below are the main structural points of the Salat:

  • Salat is for God’s remembrance (20:14).

  • Salat protects us from evil & vice (29:45).

  • Salat for the believers is conducted regularly at three times each day (24:58, 11:114, 2:238, and 17:78).

  • Salat is for men and women (9:71).

  • Salat requires a sober state of mind (4:43).

  • Salat requires cleanliness (5:6).

  • Salat is done while facing one unifying point (2:144).

  • Salat is done in a stationary standing position (2:238-239).

  • Salat involves the Scripture being recited (29:45).

  • Salat requires a moderate voice (17:110).

  • Salat is comprised of two prostrations (4:102).

  • Salat is ended by prostrating and saying specific words (4:102, 17:111).

  • Salat can be shortened in case of war (4:101).

  • Salat can be done on the move or sitting in case of worry (2:239).

It should be noted that even though we are now aware of the process of the Salat and its benefits, there is still a constant danger that the purpose and benefits of the Salat would be discarded and turned into mindless rituals as the generations before us have done:

“Then generations came after them who lost the Salat, and followed desires. They will find their consequences.” (The Message 19:59)

The loss of the Salat occurs not by people forgetting how to perform the steps related, but by not implementing the words and laws of the Almighty that they are listening to in every recital.



 


[1] It should be noted here that the Scripture uses two words when describing the aspect of Salat. One word is “Aqimo”, and the other is “Aqamo”. These two words are normally translated as the same thing: “uphold/carry-out” however, there is a distinction that needs to be highlighted. “Aqimo” is an order, while “Aqamo” is a fact. Therefore, wherever the use of the word “Aqimo” is found, it will be translated as “perform” (an order to carry out the act of Salat). Alternatively, wherever the word “Aqamo” is found, it will be translated as “honour” (an ongoing process/commitment to the function of Salat).


13 Responses to “What Is Salat?”


  1. 1 E. Bouqdib
    August 1, 2007 at 10:20 pm

    There are a lot of Good words here but also a lot of mistakes! VERY SERIOUS MISTAKES, because they concern the most important pillar in Islam: Salat. The number of daily Prayers is 5 partitioned in 17 Raka’as. A fact, I can easily prove FROM QURAN, if necessary.
    The Quranic prayers are Fajr (2) units, Dohr (4) units, Asr (4) units, Maghrib (3) units and Isha (4) units.

  2. 2 ahmed g
    August 2, 2007 at 9:45 am

    “The Quranic prayers are Fajr (2) units, Dohr (4) units, Asr (4) units, Maghrib (3) units and Isha (4) units”

    can you please show the verses confirming your statement

    thank you

  3. 3 sukran
    August 3, 2007 at 4:27 am

    Just perform it as many as you believe you need; 2,3,5, 7,10,or 40 times… These are just details. The Most Merciful, the Compassionate, the Beneficent, the Most Gracious,the Most Forgiver will see even your littlest effort. Just observe it.

  4. 4 E. Bouqdib
    August 3, 2007 at 3:03 pm

    I was surprised by the mistakes in your article but I am more surprised about your reaction! I never talked about belief and I never believe in anything unless it is proved (cause maybe my profession is maths!)
    I said that I can prove FROM QURAN (PROVE not only LIST Verses) that the number of Prayers is 5 partitioned in 17 units (Raka’as). I was EXTREMELY surprised that you did not even pay attention to what I said: PROVE not BELIEVE.
    As to you Ahmed I said prove not list one or two verses but 50 pages of proofs from Quran (A chapter from my book), just send me your questions Here: matpen(AT)Gmx(DOT)de because the book is not yet published but will be this month in sha’a Allah.

  5. 5 sukran
    August 3, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    Title: We do not respect ourselves and each other as much as we are respected at divine level.

    Dear E.Bouqdib, someone else can write 51 pages of proof that Qoran requires 3 daily prayers, and then you may write 52 more pages about your claim. We are human. We are arrogant. We never respect each other’s perspective. If we can write hundreds of pages to prove of opposite things, it means there is something we BOTH are missing. What we are missing is this subject is indefinite. Relative. We have to think and try to find what would be best for ourselves. Final opinion can be different from each other since everybody’s needs are different.

    Qoran says ‘it is detailed’ but this does not mean you may find every single detail of your faith IN WORDS without thinking. This means Qoran is DETAILED ENOUGH for our understanding. You still have to think. Memorize 99 names of Allah first and then while reading every sentence of the Qoran, try to be conscious what might Allah mention with those words. Those words are sent for human, but those words are Allah’s words. Never forget, those words are Allah’s words. And humanbeing is Allah’s khalifat on the earth. We have more freedom and authorization than we think we have.

    Qoran was sent to individuals, not to religious sects or to establish sects. So it is supposed to not be interpreted other than individually.

  6. 6 E. Bouqdib
    August 3, 2007 at 10:33 pm

    Sorry but I have both feet on the ground! And I thought people who talk about the practical side of Quran and religion must be also touching the same soil with both feet. Sorry I can’t fly, will not bother anymore, you don’t need to attack simply because the other said MISTAKE!

    You have to learn one simple thing: you want to communicate something to others with this Site, then consider also what the others wanted to tell you in the process of YOUR communication medium! It is not honest at all if somebody reports a mistake and the first thing you do is shoot him! I KNOW REALLY THAT YOU MADE VERY BIG MISTAKES (far from being arrogant) and it should not hurt you if you detain the truth, or even the absolute truth! As a bearer of the big and absolute truth you should have no fear of being dismantled, the absolute can’t be dismantled and say with open hands: “please show us what you have got”! Did you go once in that direction? No and you don’t even know what I mean, you showed only fear from the unknown, a bad companion for progressing…

  7. 7 sukran
    August 4, 2007 at 6:14 am

    Excuse me! If it is the word ‘arrogant’ I am terribly sorry if I offended you. We are all arrogant sometimes, maybe it is me right now. ‘Mistake’ did not bother me, because I am not the one who wrote this article, but I support all the ideas which are intending to free us from the mistakes. What mistakes do you think did I make so far? I can leave my mind free for dancing with the wind, because I have both feet in the soil as well: I can believe using my sense without it is technically proved. We believe differently, that is why we cannot communicate when it comes to religion.

  8. 8 Nona
    August 7, 2007 at 9:08 am

    “Prayer gives a man the opportunity of getting to know a gentleman he hardly ever meets. I do not mean his maker, but himself.” William Inge

    Prayer requires more of the heart than of the tongue. ~Adam Clarke

    (TO ME THIS IS PRAYER)

  9. 9 fats
    November 8, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    it is with a quirky smile that i read with wonder at the conversation btw sukran and E.bouqdib…

    i am not a scholar not am i intelligent or capable of holding intelligent discuss but i choose to speak from my heart and with God as my source if inspiration and guidance

    for me i find this articile interesting.. because out of my own findings I have only seen 3 salat mentiones in Quran.. fajr, wusta and isha…

    i am still asking God to provide me with knowledge and to find out the right way, is it 5 or is it 3… my own conclusions to the matter was that the 3 is contained within the 5 so for me its is irrelevant wether u do 5 or 3. what is relevant or matters is that your prayer are to the Most Gracious alone… this is should be the crux of the matter…
    also as the frequency does not matter, one should look to his heart and his bond with his creator.. to decide what is good for his soul and let God the Most Gracious be the one who leads him to frequency when performing his salat…

    when i was faced with this delima 3 or 5.. a voice immediately said to me.. surah asr…i then proceeded to read this surah, seeking my guidance from my Lord, and in this verse i feel everything is clear.. ALMSR BLRR by the afternoon, the human being is utterly lost, except those who believe and lead a righteous life, and exhort one another to uphold the truth and exhort one another to be steadfast.

    this for me embodies what we all as muslims are all discussing about this salat…
    i do agree with sukran in that with individuality we will each take home something different when reading the Quran… God is the only one that can inspire us to the truth and it is God that we should seek..and by His will, all will be clear to us…

    i am still on a quest… so far via quran, i am reading that salat was practiced in time of moses.. which leads me to postutale the three times prayer as practiced by people who call themselves jews, morning noon and evening, which for me is fajr (dawn till sunrise), wusta from (sun decline till sunset) and isha (after sunset till dark night time). what i read about night time is to remember God via praise and prostration and to say My lord, admit me a honoroubla admittance and let me depart a honorouable deprture and provide me from thee a powerful support…

    i also do find myself agreeing with the part in saying “Praise be to God who has never begotten a son, nor does He need a partner in his kingship nor does He need an ally out of weakness” during salat, as directed in Quran… but i dont agree with the part where the writer says “the salat ends with the glorification of God” saying “God is great”..

    for me magnification should be as you want it to be.. its is btw you and your God.. magnifation could be in various forms,, wither “God is great” or “praise be to the lord of the unniverse” etc.. which ever words one whishes to use to magnify and exalt his/her Lord… so implying that one should say “God is great” is a part i dont agree with…

    for me this is what i am getting from quran.. God be my guide and direct me to his path.. and if i am on the wrong path may my Most Gracious leade me out of the darkness into the light, by his will and with his mercy.

    its like they say guysm tomato (english) tomato (american) we talking about the same thing but just approaching it differently.. but is should not be a cause for throwback or quarrely, it should be a case of may God guide us to his path by His will.

  10. July 26, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    “Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.”
    “I firmly believe that many of the alleged passengers on the alleged aircraft are still alive, and quite frankly, I think they were all working for the government.”
    (Jimmy Walters)

    Les Jamieson
    National Coordinator
    NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN
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  11. 11 Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)
    August 11, 2009 at 1:31 am

    MURDER MURDER MURDER !!!

    “Dan Wallace was the son of Lt. Robert Wallace, a NYC firefighter who perished in the 911 attacks. Dan realized that the story the government gave his family was fraudulent. He became an ardent 911 Truth Activist, a powerful speaker, and a leader in the fight to expose the lies and bring his father’s killers to justice. Dan vowed not to stop until the end, but it was an end that came much too soon for this brave and noble young hero.”

    “the film “Dedicated” was made with Dan Wallace, and was made for Dan Wallace well before he was taken from us. This is a tribute to one who has fallen and who leads us still.”

    “I only wished Danny could have seen how these people turn things around and use people. Danny was a smart kid and very reasonable to talk to and he will sit and listen to someone side to a story in a debate. But when he called me to look at the Loose Change video I some what believed in some of it but that was because I had no clue about anything Loose Change was telling me so I kept an open mind and did some research of my own. I also told Danny about my doubts but he seemed so caught up in this “Movement for truth” he was almost blind to it. It was like they told him what to think and when you are always with someone (this someone was Luke) that tells you how to think and always has something to say about what experts say I guess you can be blinded. To me Danny just wanted the truth and the answer to why his father died. But he got caught up in these theories instead and was steered away fro m the truth and blinded by these people.

    As far as how Danny died, the police did say it was natural. What out family was told by the Autopsy was because of the overdose of unknown pills, sleeping pills or downer pills our family is not sure of what kind of pills he took but because of a combination of that and his heart disease which he were un aware of until his death that is what caused his death. Heart disease and taking those pills.

    His girl friend sabrina rivera was with him the night he died. She is heavily into the 911truth.orgmovement.

    I do not know the full story of what happened to my nephew but from what we my family were told by Danny’s girl friend sabrina rivera (what i am about to tell you i am still so confused about because her story changed so much into what happened or what he or she did that night, only sabrina rivera really knows)

    Version 1: Danny stayed over at her house that night in Queens and was having trouble breathing, sabrina rivera thought nothing of it and just let him sleep and in the morning she found him very blue and called 911.

    Version 2: Danny was having trouble sleeping so he took some sleeping pills was having trouble breathing sabrina rivera thought nothing of it so in the morning when she woke she found him blue and not breathing.

    Version 3: sabrina rivera and Danny had just got back from a party and Danny had bought the pills at the party from someone, took them to help him fall asleep. He took 1, then said these pills aren’t working so took about 15 or some stupid amount of these pills and later that night was having trouble breathing, sabrina rivera waited till morning when she woke and saw he was blue and not breathing.

    Version 4: Danny had bought these pills from this kid and sabrina rivera is unsure how many pills he took or what kind they were but the pills had some numbers on it. In the morning She found him blue and not breathing.

    Now after his death our friends were telling all different kind of things that sabrina rivera had told them what happened these were the versions I heard had happened. So many things went in my mind theories. I wanted to put blame but I don’t know the truth. I do know she know more to what happened then she was telling us. But she loved Danny and Danny loved her, she went out with Danny for years I believe it was 7 or 8 years they have been seeing each other. What really kills me though I hear now she is currently with this Luke kid the one that was suppose to be Danny’s newly found best friend who dragged him into the truth911 movement! I am so outraged by this but I keep quite because of my family.

    Our Family is together as a whole but Danny’s mother and my mother Danny’s grandmother wants to believe in truth911 movement because Danny believed in it so much as they see it, to me he was almost brain washed and being feed misinformation by them. But they are mothers, what are they suppose to do? shortly after Danny’s death, Dan was suppose to do a speech for the truth911 in Las Vegas but because of his death his mother went there to speak for Danny.

    Also what got me, was when Danny was alive the truth 911 was telling Danny they will be making a movie about all of this and he was going to be in the movie. It really seemed to me like they used Dan. Their videos on you tube of Dan really shows it they used Danny and his fathers name so they can push their own ideas on people. It is not a movement for truth but a movement for their thoughts and propaganda to be pushed on victims of 911 and the america people.

    You know what really pisses me off about this? It’s not that Luke lied about Dan’s death or Infowars is using a corpse for their gains, but that I am completely unshocked by this entire situation. I’ve been dealing with these psychos for over a year and seen their tactics. This does not surprise me

    *  A few weeks after this turbulent meeting Dan Wallace died (or was killed) and “We Are Change” initiated when Luke and Les Jamieson, the leader of 9/11 “Truth” parted ways.” 

    * Suijuris InfoWarrior: 9/11 A Legal Holiday?
    Jul 9, 2008 .. Sabrina A. Rivera Treasurer – Founderhttp://www.WeAreChange.org “Killing for peace is like f***ing for ..
    suijurisinfowarrior.blogspot.co… – Optiona

    * Rivera Sabrina – Email, Address, Phone number, everything …Jun 17, 2009 .. Sabrina Rivera: Luke Rudkowski’s GF IS A JESUIT! “Americans want to throw off that ideological ..

    http://www.123people.com/s/rivera+sabrina -Options

    * “The 9/11 Movement in NYC is really strong, both in this group, and in the other important group, We Are Change. I’m active with both groups, as a part of laying the groundwork for planning the big 9/11/09 conference, “Real Change and Transparency.”

    Les Jamieson
    National Coordinator
    NYC Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN
     

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