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Bukhari and Muslim…

 

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Until a few decades ago (and even today in some parts of the world), the general consensus was that the SIX collections of Hadeeths, namely the ones collected by Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi, Abu Da’ud, Nasai and Ibn Majah were to be regarded as the authentic collections. That concept was revised by the Islamic scholars of the Hadeeths when some of the narrations from the last four compilers did not stand up to the tests. Only the collections by Bukhari and Muslim were to be regarded as trustworthy – Sahih. When some of the spurious narrations from these two Sahih Hadeeths were questioned, the stringent consensus was that any narration that has been accepted by Imam Bukhari as well as acknowledged by Muslim also was to be regarded as an authenticate record.

Below is a set of narrations concerning the standard of character depicted for our beloved prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him), to be found within the Sahih Collection by Imam Bukhari as well as by Muslim. Please also read the two Verses of the Glorious Qur’an which reveals a picture given to us by Allah (s.w.t.) for His Messenger. Since the heart, soul and the mind of an Honest Believer cannot Truthfully reconcile with these TWO conflicting pictures emerging from TWO extreme spectrum’s of the standard, should he or she continue to follow his or her ancestral practice with a load of hypocrisy and pretense upon SOUL or hold fast to what our Rabb has revealed?

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Hadeeths from BUKHARI:

(1) Narrated Abu Qilaba: Anas said, “Some people of ‘ukl or ‘Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they went as directed and after they became healthy, they killed the shepherd of the Prophet and drove away all the camels. The news reached the Prophet early in the morning and he sent (men) in their pursuit and they were captured and brought at noon. He then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron,no water was given to them.” Abu Qilaba said, “Those people committed theft and murder, became infidels after embracing Islam and fought against Allah and His Apostle .” (Book #4, Hadith #234). They were put in ‘Al-Harra’ and when they asked for water,

The similar account as above is being repeated by Bukhari in FIVE other narrations:

(2) Book #59, Hadith #505.

(3) Book #71, Hadith #623.

(4) Book #82, Hadith #794.

(5) Book #82, Hadith #796.

(6) Book #82, Hadith #797.

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Hadeeths from MUSLIM:

(1)

Anas reported: Eight men of the tribe of ‘ukl came to Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and swore allegiance to him on Islam, but found the climate of that land uncogenial to their health and thus they became sick, and they made complaint of that to Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: Why don’t you go to (the fold) of our camels along with our shepherd, and make use of their milk and urine. They said: Yes. They set out and drank their (camels’) milk and urine and regained their health. They killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. This (news) reached Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and he sent them on their track and they were caught and brought to him (the Holy Prophet). He commanded about them, and (thus) their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died. This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Ibn al-Sabbah with a slight variation of words. (Book #016, Hadith #4131).

The similar account as above is being repeated by Muslim in TWO other narrations:

(2) Book #016, Hadith #4132.

(3) Book #016, Hadith #4134

 

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41 Responses to “Bukhari and Muslim…”


  1. 1 Bachir
    June 25, 2007 at 1:41 am

    Salamou aleykoum,

    when are you guys going to drop those insignificant pieces of false story so called hadith!! and get back to what was left by Mohamed aleyhi essalem HOLLY QORAN! Hadith of allah given to us through Mohameds (AS) mouth.

    Allahou akbar!

    Salamou aleykoum.

    Bachir.

  2. 2 samy
    June 25, 2007 at 6:50 am

    unfortunately , those insignificant pieces of false story so called hadith are considered authentic by most scholars

  3. October 6, 2007 at 7:28 am

    I do not think we need Bukhari’s opinion on these subjects when we think of the purpose of sex placed in us as an instinct; anal sex is strictly prohibited since woman’s anatomy does not allow to enjoy it and has a lot of side effects and there are more effective birth control methods than the past; oral sex might be considered as controversial and up to decision of husband and wife in the forceful possible meaning of 2:225.

    I liked this;

    “Arabs Knows about Oral Sex:
    The concept of oral sex is as old as Hudaibiya Treaty in Islamic tradition as is cited above by the most precious Sahih Bukhari. This shows that the arabs at the time of Prophet were familiar with the idea.”

    Excuse me, who doesn’t? :)

  4. October 6, 2007 at 8:25 am

    (Allah says, “…or one of you comes from relieving himself,” thus proving that such an act obligates a new purification),

    and releasing gas from the anus.

    Abu Hurairah reported that the Messenger of Allah said,

    “Allah does not accept the prayer of a person who has released gas until he makes a new ablution.”

    A person from Hazhramaut asked Abu Hurairah,

    “What does releasing gas mean?”

    He answered,

    “Wind with or without sound.”

    (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)

    He also narrated that the Prophet said,

    “If one of you finds a disturbance in his abdomen and is not certain if he has released any gas or not, he should not leave the mosque unless he hears its sound or smells its scent.”

    (Related by Muslim.)

    Hearing the escaping gas or smelling it is not a condition for nullifying ablution, but he stressed that one should be certain of the action.

    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/fiqhussunnah/fus1_02.html

  5. October 6, 2007 at 12:48 pm

    i agree, if the real meaning of belief system gets lost in interpretation and implementation, and even is no longer valid, absurd rules, details and rituals are created to fill out the empty space where is evacuated the purpose of the system, as real meaning.

  6. 8 Rana Ammar Mazhar
    October 6, 2007 at 6:12 pm

    Is reference 2:225 correct?

  7. October 7, 2007 at 4:28 am

    you mean 2:223

    وَيَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْمَحِيضِ قُلْ هُوَ أَذًى فَاعْتَزِلُواْ النِّسَاءَ فِي الْمَحِيضِ وَلاَ تَقْرَبُوهُنَّ حَتَّى يَطْهُرْنَ فَإِذَا تَطَهَّرْنَ فَأْتُوهُنَّ مِنْ حَيْثُ أَمَرَكُمُ اللّهُ إِنَّ اللّهَ يُحِبُّ التَّوَّابِينَ وَيُحِبُّ الْمُتَطَهِّرِينَ

    And they ask you about menstruation? Say: “It is harmful, so retire yourselves sexually from the women during the menstruation, and do not approach them until they are cleansed. When they are cleansed, then you may approach them as God has commanded you.” God loves the repenters and He loves the cleansed. 2:222

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=2&vid=222

    نِسَآؤُكُمْ حَرْثٌ لَّكُمْ فَأْتُواْ حَرْثَكُمْ أَنَّى شِئْتُمْ وَقَدِّمُواْ لِأَنفُسِكُمْ وَاتَّقُواْ اللّهَ وَاعْلَمُواْ أَنَّكُم مُّلاَقُوهُ وَبَشِّرِ الْمُؤْمِنِين

    Your women are a cultivation for you. So approach your cultivation as you wish towards goodness. And be aware of God and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers. 2:223

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=2&vid=223

    in verse 222, “about menstruation”

    ( هُوَ أَذًى ) “It is harmful”

    ( فَاعْتَزِلُواْ النِّسَاءَ فِي الْمَحِيضِ )”retire yourselves sexually from the women during the menstruation”

    it is clear that we must stop the sexual intercourse during women’s menstruation because it is harmful.

    (وَلاَ تَقْرَبُوهُنَّ حَتَّى يَطْهُرْنَ ) “and do not approach them until they are cleansed”

    it is harmful because they are unclean.

    it is clear that the sexual reproductive organ of women is the reason for not approaching women sexually during menstruation period.

    please chk http://www.estronaut.com/

    ( فَإِذَا تَطَهَّرْنَ فَأْتُوهُنَّ مِنْ حَيْثُ أَمَرَكُمُ اللّهُ إِنَّ اللّهَ يُحِبُّ التَّوَّابِينَ وَيُحِبُّ الْمُتَطَهِّرِين ) “When they are cleansed, then you may approach them as God has commanded you.” God loves the repenters and He loves the cleansed”

    you may approach your women after they are cleansed

    i think thats a proof that the female sexual reproductive organ is the only clean way to approach a woman sexually.

    Your women are a cultivation for you. So approach your cultivation( أَنَّى شِئْتُمْ ) as/however/whenever/how/when you like/want/will/wish

    unless they are unclean (during menstruation)

    there are no other alternatives given.

  8. 10 Rana Ammar Mazhar
    October 7, 2007 at 5:32 pm

    Yes. You are right 100%.

    Please comment on, “oral sex might be considered as controversial and up to decision of husband and wife in the forceful possible meaning of 2:225″.

  9. October 7, 2007 at 7:40 pm

    i think “oral sex” might be considered as a part of a sexual relationship between a couple .

    but the same condition stated above :

    ( وَلاَ تَقْرَبُوهُنَّ حَتَّى يَطْهُرْنَ ) “and do not approach them until they are cleansed”

    is applicable.

    i think avoiding the woman’s sexual reproductive organ during menstruation orally is essential .

    concerning verse 2:225

    i think nothing specific mentioned concerning the topic .

    وَلاَ تَجْعَلُواْ اللّهَ عُرْضَةً لِّأَيْمَانِكُمْ أَن تَبَرُّواْ وَتَتَّقُواْ وَتُصْلِحُواْ بَيْنَ النَّاسِ وَاللّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ

    And do not make God the subject of your casual oaths. Be pious and righteous and reconcile among the people; and God is Listener, Knower. 2:224

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=2&vid=224

    لاَّ يُؤَاخِذُكُمُ اللّهُ بِاللَّغْوِ فِي أَيْمَانِكُمْ وَلَكِن يُؤَاخِذُكُم بِمَا كَسَبَتْ قُلُوبُكُمْ وَاللّهُ غَفُورٌ حَلِيمٌ

    God will not call you to account for your casual oaths, but He will call you to account for what has entered your hearts. God is Forgiving, Compassionate. 2:225

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=2&vid=225

    the verse 2:224 is talking about people who use/make God as a subject to show off i.e “i swear to God i will ..”

    the second verse is a warning that God will not judge us upon our sayings but according to our hearts.

    God knows best
    :)

  10. October 7, 2007 at 7:49 pm

    [Please comment on, “oral sex might be considered as controversial and up to decision of husband and wife in the forceful possible meaning of 2:225″.](Sorry for the mistyping, this is supposed to be 2:225)

    Dear Rana,

    First of all, as it is always, one’s understanding on this issue CANNOT be exact meaning of the specific ayath, so please do not make me to carry any heavier responsibility than I can carry by taking my words on this subject more serious than they deserve. :) It is another miracle of the Qur’anic text that to differentiate people’s own will from each other, so we all individually have to interpret Qur’an regarding our needs and choices.

    The main purpose of the sexual intercourse is to provide continuity of the humanbeing on the earth.

    “2:223. Your women are a cultivation for you.”

    When we stay strictly literal meaning of this verse, woman and man are ordered to not to have sexual intercourse unless they have a desire to have a child, since the ‘field’ mentioned in this verse can only be females uterus.

    But, this interpretation may come to conclusion that if there is no desire to have a child sexual intercourse is supposed to not to perform; if we ignore the rality that the given pleasure besides the main purpose of sexual intercourse is another reason for its creation and ‘consistency of pleasure’ has to be in the nature of this instinct placed in us.

    If the pleasure Since the only possible way to have a child is to place the zygote in female’s uterus, oral sex cannot perform the main purpose of the sexual intercourse, however, if the both performers agree upon the idea of it has pleasure, because there is not an open ban for oral sex in the Qur’an. But, it still is not going to serve the main purpuse of the instinct.

    “And they ask you about menstruation? Say: “It is harmful, so retire yourselves sexually from the women during the menstruation, and do not approach them until they are cleansed. When they are cleansed, then you may approach them as God has commanded you.” God loves the repenters and He loves the cleansed. 2:222″

    It is sugested to not to have sexual intercourse during their menstruation when the veins in the uterus totally open and has not immunity to the bacterias, so women may easily get caught by any type of infections, diseases and also can be a risk factor for their partner if they have had herpes experience. (I am not sure when they did discover the condom and how its discovery effects the validation of this verse, btw.)

    So, in the Qur’an a safe and clean intercourse is being suggested.

    I meant by ‘forceful possible meaning’ as we may consider that oral sex is somehow permissible if the word ‘cultivation’ is determined as figurative more than literal. If we are not certain that only determined ‘field’ can be woman’s uterus, and, anal sex is openly prohibited because it is the act of homosexuality (probably due to its probable destructive results on both men’s health and society,- because it serves only pleasure not the continuity of the human being), there is only one more choice left -but still as controversial, and if the both partner’s decision are at the same direction- that whether or not oral sex AND/OR other acts are permissible. Honestly, it seems it is prohibited to me, but can be discussed as a private matter by the partners.

    I would like to have your opinions.

    Thank you,
    Peace,

  11. October 7, 2007 at 7:56 pm

    I am sending my post one more time after corrections:

    [Please comment on, “oral sex might be considered as controversial and up to decision of husband and wife in the forceful possible meaning of 2:225″.](Sorry for the mistyping, this is supposed to be 2:225)

    Dear Rana,

    First of all, as it is always, one’s understanding on this issue CANNOT be exact meaning of the specific ayath, so please do not make me to carry any heavier responsibility than I can carry by taking my words on this subject more serious than they deserve. It is another miracle of the Qur’anic text that to differentiate people’s own will from each other, so we all individually have to interpret Qur’an regarding our needs and choices.

    The main purpose of the sexual intercourse is to provide continuity of the humanbeing on the earth.

    “2:223. Your women are a cultivation for you.”

    When we stay strictly literal meaning of this verse, woman and man are ordered to not to have sexual intercourse unless they have a desire to have a child, since the ‘field’ mentioned in this verse can only be female’s uterus!

    But, this interpretation may come to conclusion that if there is no desire to have a child sexual intercourse is supposed to not to perform; if we ignore the reality that the given pleasure besides the main purpose of sexual intercourse is another reason for its creation and ‘consistency of pleasure’ has to be in the nature of this instinct placed in us.

    Since the only possible way to have a child is to place the zygote in female’s uterus, oral sex cannot perform the main purpose of the sexual intercourse, however, if the both performers agree upon the idea of it has pleasure, and there is not an open ban for oral sex in the Qur’an, it can be considered as a part of sexual relationship.

    “And they ask you about menstruation? Say: “It is harmful, so retire yourselves sexually from the women during the menstruation, and do not approach them until they are cleansed. When they are cleansed, then you may approach them as God has commanded you.” God loves the repenters and He loves the cleansed. 2:222″

    It is sugested to not to have sexual intercourse during their menstruation when the veins in the uterus totally open and have not immunity to the bacterias, so women may easily get caught by any type of infections, diseases and also can be a risk factor for their partner if they have had herpes experience. (I am not sure when they did discover the condom and how its discovery effects the validation of this verse, btw.)

    So, in the Qur’an a safe and clean intercourse is being suggested.

    I meant by ‘forceful possible meaning’ as we may consider that oral sex is somehow permissible if the word ‘cultivation’ is determined as figurative more than literal. If we are not certain that only determined ‘field’ can be woman’s uterus, and, anal sex is prohibited because it is the act of homosexuality (probably due to its probable destructive results on both men’s health and society,- because it serves only pleasure not the continuity of the human being), there is only one more choice left -but still as controversial, and if the both partner’s decision are at the same direction- that whether or not oral sex AND/OR other acts are permissible. Honestly, it seems it is prohibited to me, but can be discussed as a private matter by the partners.

    I would like to have your opinions.

    Thank you,
    Peace,

  12. 14 Rana Ammar Mazhar
    October 7, 2007 at 11:58 pm

    Miracle of the Qur’anic Text

    “It is another miracle of the Qur’anic text that to differentiate people’s own will from each other, so we all individually have to interpret Qur’an regarding our needs and choices”.

    Very important point and beautiful statement need to be discussed further with detailed examples.

    Thank you,
    Peace.

  13. October 8, 2007 at 12:14 am

    Thank you rana for your contribution

    Peace

  14. 16 Rana Ammar Mazhar
    October 8, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    Periodic Table of Jinn Elements

    According to Quran every living creature has water as constituent of
    its body.

    (24:45) Allah has created from water every living creature: of them
    there are some that creep upon their bellies, some that walk on two
    legs, and yet some that walk on four; Allah creates what He pleases;
    surely Allah has power over everything.

    So according to Mullahs Jinn are also a separate generation made of
    Fire, so my Question is that what is the percentage of water in a Jinn
    & what is the nature of this water? Is it a special kink of water which
    remains in firely Body?

    The Mullahs should make a Periodic Table of Jinn Elements similar to
    Periodic Table of Elements and made an ATOMIC MODEL OF JINN WATER.

    So they will become Great Muslim Scientists by presenting this model &
    get a Noble Prize.

    And a revolution in Science will happen!

  15. 17 Rana Ammar Mazhar
    October 8, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    JINN PROPHET FOR JINN GENERATION

    In QURAN there is a principal that:

    Man prophet for men generation,

    Angel prophet for angel’s generation,

    Similarly:

    Jinn prophet for jinn generation.

    (17:94)
    Yet whenever Guidance came to people, nothing has ever kept them from
    believing as much as this objection, “Would Allah send a mortal man as
    His Messenger?”

    (17:95)
    Say, “If angels walked about and dwelled in the earth, We would have
    sent an angel from the heaven as Messenger.” (43:60).

    (6:130)
    Dr. Shabbir Ahmed
    O You, assembly of the nomads and the urbanites! Did not Messengers
    come to you from among you, who conveyed to you My Messages and warned
    you of the meeting of this your Day? They will say, “We testify against
    ourselves.” Pursuit of only the worldly life preoccupied their hearts
    and minds. They will bear witness against themselves that they
    disregarded the Truth.

    Khalifa
    O you jinns and humans, did you not receive messengers from among you,
    who narrated to you My revelations, and warned you about the meeting of
    this day? They will say, “We bear witness against ourselves.” They were
    totally preoccupied with the worldly life, and they will bear witness
    against themselves that they were disbelievers.

    Yusuf Ali
    “O ye assembly of Jinns and men! came there not unto you apostles from
    amongst you, setting forth unto you My signs, and warning you of the
    meeting of this Day of yours?” They will say: “We bear witness against
    ourselves.” It was the life of this world that deceived them. So
    against themselves will they bear witness that they rejected Faith.

    Pickthal
    O ye assembly of the jinn and humankind! Came there not unto you
    messengers of your own who recounted unto you My tokens and warned you
    of the meeting of this your Day ? They will say: We testify against
    ourselves. And the life of the world beguiled them. And they testify
    against themselves that they were disbelievers.

    Shakir
    O assembly of jinn and men! did there not come to you apostles from
    among you, relating to you My communications and warning you of the
    meeting of this day of yours? They shall say: We bear witness against
    ourselves; and this world’s life deceived them, and they shall bear
    witness against their own souls that they were unbelievers.

    Sher Ali
    ‘O company of jinn and men ! Did not Messengers come to you from among
    yourselves who related to you MY Signs and who warned you of the
    meeting of this your day ?’ They will say, `We bear witness against
    ourselves.’ And the worldly life deceived them. And they will bear
    witness against themselves that they were disbelievers.

    “Progressive Muslims”
    “O you tribes of Jinn and humans, did not messengers from amongst you
    come to you and relate to you My revelations, and warn you of the
    meeting of this day?” They said: “Yes, we bear witness upon ourselves;”
    and the worldly life deceived them, and they bore witness on themselves
    that they were rejecters.

    So some one can conclude that the prophets were of dual nature.

    Or
    Some one can conclude that the human are of dual nature.

    Or
    A Human prophet for Jinn Generation can cause contradiction /
    discrepancy in Quran.

    (4:82)
    Do they not consider the Qur-an (with care)? Had it been from other
    than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy.

    Very interesting!

  16. October 8, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    “72:1. Say: It has been revealed to me that a party of the jinn listened, and they said: Surely we have heard a wonderful Quran,

    72:2. Guiding to the right way, so we believe in it, and we will not set up any one with our Lord:

    72:3. And that He– exalted be the majesty of our Lord– has not taken a consort, nor a son:

    72:4. And that the foolish amongst us used to forge extravagant things against Allah:

    72:5. And that we thought that men and jinn did not utter a lie against Allah:

    72:6. And that persons from among men used to seek refuge with persons from among jinn, so they increased them in wrongdoing:

    72:19. And that when the servant of Allah stood up calling upon Him, they wellnigh crowded him (to death).

    46:29. And when We turned towards you a party of the jinn who listened to the Quran; so when they came to it, they said: Be silent; then when it was finished, they turned back to their people warning (them).

    55:33. O assembly of the jinn and the men! If you are able to pass through the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass through; you cannot pass through but with authority.

    17:88. Say: If men and jinn should combine together to bring the like of this Quran, they could not bring the like of it, though some of them were aiders of others.

    6:130. O assembly of jinn and men! did there not come to you apostles from among you, relating to you My communications and warning you of the meeting of this day of yours? They shall say: We bear witness against ourselves; and this world’s life deceived them, and they shall bear witness against their own souls that they were unbelievers.

    11:119. Except those on whom your Lord has mercy; and for this did He create them; and the word of your Lord is fulfilled: Certainly I will fill hell with the jinn and the men, all together.”

    Dear Rana,

    Even though jinns listened the Qur’an and let rest of them what was written in the Quran, jinns have unconditional free will like human for their choices, understands human languages, they have same inability to not to be able to pass the regions of the heaven and the earth like human, etc. , yes, I can see no proof that Muhammad was also sent to jinns.

    Other than openly given information, qayamat, jinns, etc. are ‘gayb’. I do not think we are allowed to think or talk about the gayb, we know no more than we are told in the Qur’an about them.

    Peace,

  17. October 9, 2007 at 4:10 am

    Jinns were created before humans

    وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا الْإِنسَانَ مِن صَلْصَالٍ مِّنْ حَمَإٍ مَّسْنُونٍ

    And We have created man from a clay hardened and shaped. 15:26

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=15&vid=26

    وَالْجَآنَّ خَلَقْنَاهُ مِن قَبْلُ مِن نَّارِ السَّمُومِ

    And the Jinn, We created him before that from the flames of fire. 15:27

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=15&vid=27

    please see:

    human-being-was-created-from-earthly-materials-and-water-according-to-a-divinely-guided-evolution/

    Satan was of the Jinn

    وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلاَئِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلاَّ إِبْلِيسَ كَانَ مِنَ الْجِنِّ فَفَسَقَ عَنْ أَمْرِ رَبِّهِ أَفَتَتَّخِذُونَهُ وَذُرِّيَّتَهُ أَوْلِيَاءَ مِن دُونِي وَهُمْ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ بِئْسَ لِلظَّالِمِينَ بَدَلا

    And We said to the Angels: “Submit to Adam.” So they all submitted except for Satan, he was of the Jinn, so he disobeyed the order of his Lord. “Will you take him and his progeny as allies besides Me, while they are your enemy?” Miserable for the wicked is the substitute! 18:50

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=18&vid=50

    All verses concerning Jinns are giving the impression that it is unseen, like Satan and his progeny.

    Quote
    So some one can conclude that the prophets were of dual nature.

    i think that the prophet Mohammed had no direct contact with Jinn maybe Solomon did.

    قُلْ أُوحِيَ إِلَيَّ أَنَّهُ اسْتَمَعَ نَفَرٌ مِّنَ الْجِنِّ فَقَالُوا إِنَّا سَمِعْنَا قُرْآنًا عَجَبًا

    Say: “It has been inspired to me that a group of Jinn were listening.” They said: “We have heard a magnificent Quran!” 72:1

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=72&vid=1

    In the verse above, it seems that the Jinns are able to listen to the Quran and God is telling prophet Mohammed to say to the people (humans). I’ll come back to this later .

    وَلِسُلَيْمَانَ الرِّيحَ غُدُوُّهَا شَهْرٌ وَرَوَاحُهَا شَهْرٌ وَأَسَلْنَا لَهُ عَيْنَ الْقِطْرِ وَمِنَ الْجِنِّ مَن يَعْمَلُ بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ بِإِذْنِ رَبِّهِ وَمَن يَزِغْ مِنْهُمْ عَنْ أَمْرِنَا نُذِقْهُ مِنْ عَذَابِ السَّعِيرِ

    And for Solomon the wind was given, traveling one month coming and one month going, and We caused a spring of tar to flow for him. And from among the Jinn are those that worked for him by his Lord’s leave; and any one of them who turns from Our commands, We shall cause him to taste the retribution of the Fire. 34:12

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=34&vid=12

    وَحُشِرَ لِسُلَيْمَانَ جُنُودُهُ مِنَ الْجِنِّ وَالْإِنسِ وَالطَّيْرِ فَهُمْ يُوزَعُونَ

    And Solomon’s soldiers were gathered, comprising of humans and Jinn and birds, for they were to be spread out. 27:17

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=27&vid=17

    see also :

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?word=%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%86

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?word=%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%86

    QuoteSome one can conclude that the human are of dual nature.

    humans and jinns may inspire and support each other

    وَكَذَلِكَ جَعَلْنَا لِكُلِّ نَبِيٍّ عَدُوًّا شَيَاطِينَ الْإِنسِ وَالْجِنِّ يُوحِي بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَى بَعْضٍ زُخْرُفَ الْقَوْلِ غُرُورًا وَلَوْ شَاءَ رَبُّكَ مَا فَعَلُوهُ فَذَرْهُمْ وَمَا يَفْتَرُونَ

    We have permitted the enemies of every prophet, human and Jinn devils, to inspire in each other with fancy words in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications. 6:112

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=6&vid=112

    وَيَوْمَ يَحْشُرُهُمْ جَمِيعًا يَا مَعْشَرَ الْجِنِّ قَدِ اسْتَكْثَرْتُم مِّنَ الْإِنسِ وَقَالَ أَوْلِيَآؤُهُم مِّنَ الْإِنسِ رَبَّنَا اسْتَمْتَعَ بَعْضُنَا بِبَعْضٍ وَبَلَغْنَا أَجَلَنَا الَّذِي أَجَّلْتَ لَنَا قَالَ النَّارُ مَثْوَاكُمْ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا إِلاَّ مَا شَاءَ اللّهُ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ حَكِيمٌ عَليمٌ

    And the Day we gather them all: “O tribes of Jinn, you have managed to take many humans.” Their supporters from the humans said: “Our Lord, we have indeed enjoyed one another, and we have reached our destiny to which You delayed us.” He said: “The Fire is your dwelling, in it you shall abide eternally, except as your Lord wishes.” Your Lord is Wise, Knowledgeable. 6:128

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=6&vid=128

    but i guess thats not a right thing to do

    we are not allowed to contact each other .

    وَأَنَّهُ كَانَ رِجَالٌ مِّنَ الْإِنسِ يَعُوذُونَ بِرِجَالٍ مِّنَ الْجِنِّ فَزَادُوهُمْ رَهَقًا

    “And there were men from among mankind who used to seek help from the men among the Jinn, but they only helped increase them in sin.” 72:6

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=72&vid=6

    وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا رَبَّنَا أَرِنَا الَّذَيْنِ أَضَلَّانَا مِنَ الْجِنِّ وَالْإِنسِ نَجْعَلْهُمَا تَحْتَ أَقْدَامِنَا لِيَكُونَا مِنَ الْأَسْفَلِينَ

    And those who have rejected will Say: “Our Lord, show us those who have misled us from among the Jinn and humans so we can trample them under our feet, and render them the lowliest.” 41:29

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=41&vid=29

    Quote
    A Human prophet for Jinn Generation can cause contradiction /
    discrepancy in Quran.

    Humans have their own messengers and Jinns have their own. no such thing as prophet for Jinn nor a Jinn messenger to humans nor human messenger to Jinn.

    يَا مَعْشَرَ الْجِنِّ وَالْإِنسِ أَلَمْ يَأْتِكُمْ رُسُلٌ مِّنكُمْ يَقُصُّونَ عَلَيْكُمْ آيَاتِي وَيُنذِرُونَكُمْ لِقَاءَ يَوْمِكُمْ هَـذَا قَالُواْ شَهِدْنَا عَلَى أَنفُسِنَا وَغَرَّتْهُمُ الْحَيَاةُ الدُّنْيَا وَشَهِدُواْ عَلَى أَنفُسِهِمْ أَنَّهُمْ كَانُواْ كَافِرِينَ

    “O you tribes of Jinn and humans, did not messengers come to you from amongst you and relate to you My revelations, and warn you of the meeting of this Day?” They said: “Yes, we bear witness upon ourselves;” and the worldly life deceived them, and they bore witness on themselves that they were rejecter 6:130

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=6&vid=130

    Some one can conclude that each one of them is separate from the other

    “O you tribes of Jinn, did not messengers come to you from amongst you (Jinn)”
    “O you tribes of Humans, did not messengers come to you from amongst you (Humans)”

    they are not combined together , each of them are addressed separately thats why we are noticed that Jinn may listen to God but we Humans can not communicate so there is no way that a messenger from one side be a messenger to the other side.

    if you are sending a cat messenger to the cats tribes and a dog messenger to the dogs tribes and the didn’t reply you will say to them

    “O you tribes of cats and dogs, did not messengers come to you from amongst you “

    i think that it is not a proof that cats and dogs can communicate :)

    Peace

    see also

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?word=%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%B4%D8%B1

  18. 20 Rana Ammar Mazhar
    October 10, 2007 at 12:12 am

    ==Genie as a Thief==

    In Muslim beliefs, the genie can also act as a supernatural thief. [http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/054.sbt.html#004.054.533] By some traditions, Prophet Mohammed warned against thieving jinn.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie#Jinn_in_Islam

  19. October 10, 2007 at 11:43 am

    Quote“Jinn can transform themselves into humans and can be summoned by humans.”

    i think that some concepts about Jinn were borrowed from the concept of Jinn in pre-Islamic era

    Quote“In many countries there are people who perform or supposedly perform black magic (usually for cursing other people, or using jinns to influence a marriage to end in divorce, etc) in exchange for money. Thus, a person often pays a magician, who then calls upon a dark jinn, who then performs the magic, at least supposedly. These acts are considered haraam in Islam.”

    i couldn’t find a direct link between Jinn and Magic in the Quran but maybe the following would help.

    -Jinn, Satan and Devils

    ( شَيَاطِينَ الْإِنسِ وَالْجِنِّ ) human and Jinn devils (6:112)

    (َّ إِبْلِيسَ كَانَ مِنَ الْجِنِ ) Satan, he was of the Jinn (18:50)

    I think

    ( الشيطان ) The Devil is an internal force

    ( فَوَسْوَسَ لَهُمَا الشَّيْطَانُ ) But the devil whispered to them (7:20) and not Satan (7:11)

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?word=%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%86

    the devil is a force among humans and jinns
    the devil is making footsteps ( ْ خُطُوَاتِ الشَّيْطَان ) for us (humans and jinns) to follow. (2:168) (2:208) (6:142)
    the devil is our ( عَدُوٌّ مُّبِينٌ )enemy , (2:168) (2:208)

    وَاتَّبَعُواْ مَا تَتْلُواْ الشَّيَاطِينُ عَلَى مُلْكِ سُلَيْمَانَ وَمَا كَفَرَ سُلَيْمَانُ وَلَـكِنَّ الشَّيَاطِينَ كَفَرُواْ يُعَلِّمُونَ النَّاسَ السِّحْرَ وَمَا أُنزِلَ عَلَى الْمَلَكَيْنِ بِبَابِلَ هَارُوتَ وَمَارُوتَ وَمَا يُعَلِّمَانِ مِنْ أَحَدٍ حَتَّى يَقُولاَ إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ فِتْنَةٌ فَلاَ تَكْفُرْ فَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مِنْهُمَا مَا يُفَرِّقُونَ بِهِ بَيْنَ الْمَرْءِ وَزَوْجِهِ وَمَا هُم بِضَآرِّينَ بِهِ مِنْ أَحَدٍ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِ اللّهِ وَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مَا يَضُرُّهُمْ وَلاَ يَنفَعُهُمْ وَلَقَدْ عَلِمُواْ لَمَنِ اشْتَرَاهُ مَا لَهُ فِي الآخِرَةِ مِنْ خَلاَقٍ وَلَبِئْسَ مَا شَرَوْاْ بِهِ أَنفُسَهُمْ لَوْ كَانُواْ يَعْلَمُونَ

    And they followed what the devils recited regarding Solomon’s kingship. Solomon did not reject, but it was the devils that rejected by teaching people magic, and teaching them what was sent down on the two Angels in Babylon, Haroot and Maroot. They did not teach anyone until they would Say: “We are a test, so do not lose faith!” Thus they teach what can separate between a person and his mate; but they cannot harm anyone except by God’s permission. And they learn what harms them and does not benefit them, and they have known that he who purchases such has no place in the Hereafter. Miserable indeed is what they purchased with their souls if only they knew! 2:102

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?sid=2&vid=102

    -Magic

    the devils ( الشَّيَاطِينَ )that rejected by teaching people magic.

    regarding Solomon’s kingship ( عَلَى مُلْكِ سُلَيْمَانَ )

    http://www.openburhan.net/ob.php?root=%D8%B3%D8%AD%D8%B1

    -Solomon

    ( وَمِنَ الْجِنِّ مَن يَعْمَلُ بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ ) And from among the Jinn are those that worked for him (34:12)

    Magic was before Solomon, and the story of moses is an example but (2:102) confirms a certain incident in Babylon.

    what do you think ?

  20. 22 Rana Ammar Mazhar
    October 22, 2007 at 6:12 pm

    Due to fear of deletion & tampering of original article, I am posting to preserve the complete article hoping for stay at the site. Please read the tampering history at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oral_sex_in_Islamic_law&action=history.
    Please help to preserve, thanks.
    Peace.

    The issue of ”’Oral Sex in Islam”’ is [[controversial]] among [[Islamic]] [[scholars]]. Some allow the practice and some disapprove. However, the generally known Islamic rule is that whatever is not ”[[haram]]” (banned) in the [[Quran]], nor by a prophetic statement or behavior, is to be allowed; as principally everything is allowed; the exception is ”what” was prohibited by Allah Almighty or by his messenger. Based on this principle, oral sex is an allowed act.[http://www.esextherapy.com/dissertations/islam%20dissertation.pdf] Furthermore, oral sex is licit, as long as it is practiced between husband and wife, same as for every other sexual practices. The basic ruling is licitness from head to toe with the exception of [[anal intercourse]] and [[genital intercourse]] during [[menstruation]].

    ==Citations of oral sex in Islamic literature==

    ===From the Sahih Al-Bukhari===

    [[Image:Oral_Sex_in_Sahih_Al-Bukhari.JPG|300px|thumb|right|Oral Sex in Sahih Al-Bukhari [http://www.al-eman.com/hadeeth/viewchp.asp?BID=13&CID=109#s16] by Sahih [[Hadith]] of [[Sahih Al-Bukhari]] by Imam [[Al-Bukhari]] & [[Urdu]] translation of the Hadith.]]
    At the time of the [[Hudaibiya|Hudaibiya treaty]], [[Abu Bakr]] told [[Urwa bin Masud Thaqafi]]As cited by [[Imam Bukhari]] [http://www.pendidikan-islam-gratis.blogspot.com/]:

    {{quotation|“[[Oral sex|Suck]] the [[clitoris]]/[[vagina]] ( ‏بظر : English translation clitoris. [http://www.websters-dictionary-online.org/translation/Arabic+old/%25E2%2580%258F%25D8%25A8%25D8%25B8%25D8%25B1], [http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/بظر]) of Laat”.Al-Lat is an idol worshipped by the Thaqif in the Pre-Islamic period. [http://dictionary.al-islam.com/Eng/Dicts/SelDict.asp?Lang=ENG&DI=65&Theme=16].Sahih Bukhari, Kitab al Sharut [Conditions], Book: al-Sharut fil Jihad [Conditions for Jihad], Hadith 2770. [http://www.al-eman.com/hadeeth/viewchp.asp?BID=13&CID=109#s16].}}

    Oral Sex is not haram according to a Pakistani sect, but disliked, see [http://www.noorclinic.com/Book1/book1_home.htm] & [http://www.noorclinic.com/Book1/Page205/health_177.htm].

    ==Arabs knew about oral sex==

    The concept of oral sex is as old as the Hudaibiya Treaty in Islamic tradition, as cited above by [[Sahih Bukhari]]. This shows that the Arabs at the time of Prophet were familiar with the idea.

    ===From the History of Al-[[Tabari]]===

    وكان عبد مناة بن كنانة تزوج هند بنت بكر بن وائل …… أبو بكر امصص بظر اللات واللات طاغية …

    تاريخ الطبري – الطبري ج 2-

    “Suck the clitoris/vagina of Laat”. [http://www.yasoob.com/books/htm1/m024/28/no2810.html].

    ===Opinions from other Islamic sects===
    Dr. [[Qaradawi]], a [[Sunni]], allows the practice of oral sex in a [[fatwa]] with certain conditions.[http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543892]. Shia Imam [[Al-Khoei]] said that oral sex between husband and wife is not unlawful (not haraam). [http://www.al-khoei.org/kb/article.aspx?id=12431]. One group of salafi scholars and Shafii school says that oral sex is completely ”halal” (clean) because of the hadith of the prophet(s) in which he encouraged foreplay between spouses, and that these are naturally gratifying activities that will help the spouses have a better marriage. [http://umarlee.blogspot.com/2005/10/weed-and-oral-sex-in-islam-and-old.html].

    Dr. Heba Kotb, a [[Sunni]] female scholar[http://goodcleanlove.com/blog/?p=31] Dr.[http://www.hebakotb.net/] who gives sex advice on [[Egypt]]ian TV, said that oral sex is allowed “since there is no religious text banning it”.[http://www.religionnewsblog.com/16710/muslim-woman-gives-sex-advice-on-arab-tv], [http://www.hebakotb.net/].

    ==Sucking the wife’s breasts and vagina==

    There is no Islamic text that forbids the sucking of a wife’s breast. Therefore, it is up to the husband and wife to decide to do it or not.[http://www.islamonline.net/livefatwa/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=8g7iPX]. The husband can caress the breasts and nipples and suck the wife’s breasts. *[http://www.pinkislam.com/marital-relations/husband-sucking-wifes-breasts.html] and [http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503544374]

    The Malikis allow licking the vagina (farj) stating that there is no harm in it and it is not a hated act (”makruh”). [[Imam Malik]] said that there is no harm in [[licking]] the [[pudendum]] with the [[tongue]]. [http://www.abc.se/~m9783/fiqhi/fiqha_e92.html].

    Shiaa references say that Imam [[Musa al-Kazim]] was once asked, “Can a person kiss his wife’s vulva?” The Imam said, “No problem.” (Wasa’il, vol. 14, p. 77; for similar views of present mujtahids see al-‘Urwah, p. 625).[http://www.geocities.com/shubayr/marriageahadith.htm].

    ==On touching the penis==

    ”’If one can touch, one can kiss if it is clean.”’

    [[Image:Touching_the_Penis_in_Islamic_Law.JPG|350px|thumb|right| Touching the penis in [[Islamic Law]] by Sahih [[Hadith]] of [[Al-Muwatta]] [[Imam Muhammad]] & [[Urdu]] translation of the Hadith; the [[translation]] of the above page is given partially at [http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/resolve?id=doi:10.1086/429229].]]
    In Islam, some have argued that the [[sexual organs]] should not be considered [[impure]], dirty or otherwise bad, but these are just like others parts of body. Touching the sexual organ does not nullify the [[Ritual purification|ablution]]: “A man asked Muhammad if a man who touches his penis has to perform ablution. The prophet replied: “No, it is just a part of you.” [http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/fiqhussunnah/fus1_02.html] and [http://www.allaahuakbar.net/purification/things_which_invalidate_wudhu.htm].

    [[Hanafi]] [[jurists]] who claim touching the penis in Islamic Law [http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/resolve?id=doi:10.1086/429229] is not a [[shame]]ful act. The Sahih Hadith of [[Al-Muwatta]] [[Imam Muhammad]] (see image) argues that the “act is not impure”. And emphasized that “if the penis were vile or impure, it should be cut off from the body and thrown away”. The Hadith claimed that there is no difference between the penis and the other parts of body. Scholars such as Muhammad B. Al-Hasan Al-Shaybani cited several opinions from [[Abu Hanifah]]:

    {{quotation|Abu Hanifah related to me, on the authority of Hamad b. Ibrahim, on the authority of ؛Ali b. Abi Talib, that concerning touching the penis he said: “There is no harm. I touch it or the end of my nose.”Abu Hanifah related to me, on the authority of Hamad b. Ibrahim, that Ibn Mas؛ud asked about wudu for touching the penis. He said: “It is impure [najas], so cut it off!” meaning that there is no harm in it.Abu Hanifah related to me, on the authority of Hamad b. Ibrahim, that Sa؛d b. Abi Waqqas passed by a man who was washing his penis. He said: “What are you doing? This is not required of you.”}}

    However, Abu Hanifah reiterated that that washing the penis is important after urinating.

    The first and second of these reports are related to the oft-cited report, given on the authority of Talq b. ؛Ali [b. al-Mundhir b. Qays], concerning the saying of Muhammad about the penis. Talq b. ؛Ali said: We were with the Apostle of God when a man, like a Bedouin, came to him and said: “Oh Apostle of God, what do you think about a man touching his penis after performing wudu?” He [Prophet Muhammad] said: “What is it but a piece of your [[flesh]]?”

    ==Oral Sex and Circumcision==

    There may be some medical harm in oral sex if organs are not clean or have infection. The circumcised penis, considered more aesthetic, is favored by most women for oral sex (fellatio). Shaving of the pubic hair is often favored as well in Islamic tradition.[http://www.esextherapy.com/dissertations/islam%20dissertation.pdf].

    ==Oral sex as foreplay==

    Oral sex should not lead to any repulsive feeling, and it is advisable to guarantee that the spouse is approving the act in order to fulfill the maximum joy out of the act. [http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/ARCHIV/kotb2.htm].

    Dr. Heba Kotb stresses that women should also enjoy sex. Oral sex is a form of foreplay and Islam “stresses the importance of foreplay”. [http://steelturman.typepad.com/thesteeldeal/2006/12/sexual_revoluti.html]. Hanbali books mention that it is lawful for a husband to achieve ejaculation by his wife masturbating him, and by rubbing his penis between her thighs or breasts. [http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/sex/sex-oral.html].

    ===Foreplay techniques===

    Ubaydullah bin Zurarah said that he had an old neighbor who owned a young slave-girl. Because of his old age, he could not fully satisfy the young slave-girl during sexual intercourse. She would therefore ask him to place his fingers in her vagina as she liked it. The old man complied with her wishes even though he did not like this idea. So he requested ‘Ubaydullah to ask Imam ‘ Ali ar-Riza (a. s.) about it. When ‘Ubaydullah asked the Imam about it, the Imam said, “There is no problem as long as he uses any part of his own body upon her, but he should not use any thing other than his body on her.” (Wasa’il, vol. 14, p. 77). [http://www.al-islam.org/m_morals/chap3b.htm].

    The Prophet said, “No one among you should have sex with his wife like animals; rather there should be a messenger between them.” When asked about the messenger, he said, “It means kissing and talking.” (Tahzibu’l-Ihya, vol. 3, p. 110). [http://www.al-islam.org/m_morals/chap3b.htm].

    The Messenger of Allah also stated: “Every game a person plays is futile except for archery, training one’s horse and playing with one’s wife (foreplay and kissing) ”. (Sunan [[Tirmidhi]], [[Musnad Ahmad]], Sunan Ibn [[Majah]]). [http://www.answering-christianity.com/karim/islamic_way_of_making_love_to_wife.htm].

    ==In relation to sexual gratification==

    In the light of the Quran verse, Al-Mu’minun, five to seven scholars said that the husband is allowed to enjoy his wife through any means of enjoyment except for anal sex. Dr. Ali Jum`ah, professor of the Principles of Islamic Jurisprudence at Al-Azhar University, said that licking, sucking and kissing a spouse’s sexual organs are all allowed, as long as it gives a person sexual gratification. This concept will keep him away from unlawfulness (haraam).[http://www2.islamonline.com/news/newsfull.php?newid=318]. It is allowed for a husband to lick his wife’s vaginal area when it helps her have orgasm. Also, the wife can lick her husband’s penis to cause erection. All sexual acts that aim at satisfying and pleasing the spouses are allowable.[http://www.islamonline.net/livefatwa/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=nrdTPK].

    ==Concept of [[Purity|pure]] and [[impure]] [[secretions]]==

    ===Genital secretions===
    Secretions from the [[vagina]] are pure. There is no [[hadith]] or [[Ayah|verse]] that mentioned anything of [[vaginal discharge]].[http://www.islamonline.net/livefatwa/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=V68078]. Similarly, many scholars view that [[semen]] is [[Purity|pure]] ([[taahir]]).[http://www2.islamonline.com/news/print.php?newid=5030].

    The [[Shafie]] [[madhabs]] said that the [[sperm]] of the male is pure, but [[pre-ejaculate]], or “mazi liquid”, is [[najasa]]. The partners in fact might be [[licking]] the mazi liquid which is najasa before the [[ejaculation]] is completed. Hence it could be understood if this is the case then oral sex is [[makruh]] but certainly not [[haraam|haram]] because there is no evidence to say so. [http://www.abc.se/~m9783/fiqhi/fiqha_e92.html].

    Muslim scholars are of the opinion that if sucking leads to releasing [[semen]], then it is blameworthy (makruh), but there is no decisive evidence to forbid it. These parts are not dirty like anus (”dubur” in [[Arabic]]). But there is no decisive evidence to make it unlawful, especially if the wife agrees with it or achieves [[orgasm]] by practicing it. [http://www2.islamonline.com/news/newsfull.php?newid=318].

    ===Avoiding secretions===
    If oral sex can be done in such a way that no filth is involved, then it would be considered lawful for a wife to kiss her husband’s penis as long as she avoids any areas where there is pre-ejaculatory fluid, a loving couple could always use a condom, and a husband can kiss the outer parts of his wife’s genitals and suck her clitoris (mentioned in many books of Hanbali fiqh) for her pleasure and satisfaction to an orgasm and it must be sure to rinse out mouths afterwards. [http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/sex/sex-oral.html].

    By using the [[Arab strap (sexual device)|Arab strap]], [[condom]] or by holding base shaft in hand tightly, the discharge of [[impure]] [[secretions]] and contact with [[seminal]] [[fluids]] during oral sex may be avoided.

    ==References and notes==
    {{reflist|2}}

    ==See also==
    *[[The Lawful and the Prohibited in Islam]]
    *[[Islamic view of anal sex]]

    ==Further readings==
    *[http://www.abc.se/~m9783/fiqhi/fiqha_e92.html] Questions On Sexuality
    *[http://www.islamonline.com/cgi-bin/news_service/fatwah_story.asp?service_id=318 Islam online] Islam’s stance on oral sex
    *[http://www.zawaj.com/straight_talk.html ZAWAJ.COM: Straight Talk] Straight Talk About Sex in Islam
    *[http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=825 understanding Islam] Regarding ‘Oral Sex’
    *[http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/sex/sex-oral.html] Is oral sex permitted?
    *[http://www.answering-christianity.com/oral_sex.htm answering-christianity] on Oral sex
    *[http://www.fatwa.org.za/documents/sex/Oral%20Sex%20fatwa.htm] Oral Sex with One’s Wife: Is Ghusl Obligatory
    *[http://www2.islamonline.com/news/print.php?newid=5030] If he has intercourse with his wife, do his clothes become naajis

    [[Category:Sexuality in Islam]]
    [[Category:Sex]]
    [[Category:Muslim views]]

  21. 23 Rana Ammar Mazhar
    October 23, 2007 at 1:12 am

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    Due to fear of deletion & tampering of original article, I am posting to preserve the complete article hoping for stay at the site. Please read the tampering history at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oral_sex_in_Islamic_law&action=history.
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  22. 24 Rana Ammar Mazhar
    October 23, 2007 at 5:40 pm

    Dear Stefan,

    Please add the above article as such from wikipedia.

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  23. 25 Rana Ammar Mazhar
    October 23, 2007 at 5:41 pm

    Islamic view of anal sex

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_view_of_anal_sex

    [[Anal sex]] in [[Islam]] is prohibited,[http://understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=262] but is [[controversial]] among [[Islamic]] [[scholars]] because of Ahadith of Sahih Bukhari[http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=91968&ln=eng] and [[Usul al-Kafi]]. It is practiced by some Muslims to avoid having too many children on the authority of above cites sources.[http://www.middleeast.org/read.cgi?category=Magazine&num=1319&standalone=0&month=1&year=2006&function=text]. However in modern times, it is overwhelmingly considered taboo.[http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=91968&ln=eng]

    ==Anal sex and Sunni Islam==

    There are Ahadith which allows ([[anus]], in Arabic Dubur: “ فِي الدُّبُر ” ) sex, one in Sunni sect and two in Shia sect. In Sunni sect, a high rated Hadith Book Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60: Prophetic Commentary on the Qur’an (Tafseer of the Prophet), Hadith No. 50, [http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/060.sbt.html#006.060.050] allows it, its authenticity and anal sex concept is conformed by a Hadith of Sunan [[Abu-Dawud]], Book 11: Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Hadith Number 2159 [http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/abudawud/011.sat.html#011.2157], whereas the said Hadith itself disapproves along with many other Ahadith in other books except Sahih Bukhari.[http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/060.sbt.html#006.060.051]

    ==Ijma & Bukhari Hadith==

    Ijma of the 2nd-3rd century Sunni scholars is against, but Bukhari Hadith No. 50 is against the Ijma and is not taken out of context, reference. The [[Blank]] [[Space]] in Arabic & in [[English]] [[translation]] is for anus. The next Hadith No. 51 is not related to anus as children are not born out of anus.

    Narrated Nafi': Whenever Ibn ‘Umar recited the Qur’an, he would not speak to anyone till he had finished his recitation. Once I held the Qur’an and he recited Surat-al-Baqara from his memory and then stopped at a certain Verse and said, “Do you know in what connection this Verse was revealed? ” I replied, “No.” He said, “It was revealed in such-and-such connection.” Ibn ‘Umar then resumed his recitation. Nafi added regarding the Verse:–“So go to your tilth when or how you will” Ibn ‘Umar said, “It means one should approach his wife in ..” (Volume 6, Book 60, Number 50), http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/060.sbt.html#006.060.050.

    If the Blank Space was for vagina, it could not be blank.

    For further details & confirmation, read Urdu page “Anal Sex and Islam” by Dr. Syed Mubin Akhtar at [http://noorclinic.com/urdu_articles/religious/anal_sex_and_islam_1.htm] & [http://noorclinic.com/urdu_articles/religious/anal_sex_and_islam_2.htm].

    ==Anal Sex and Shia Sect==

    In Shia sect, a high rated Hadith Book “Usool al- Kafi, i.e., The Bukhari of [[Shi'ism]]” [http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shiites/KAFI.HTM], & Tafseer al-Ayyashi, vol.1, p.157; Bihaar al-Anwaar vol.21, p.98; Tafseer al-Burhaan vol.2, p.230, [http://www.islamawareness.net/Deviant/Shia/women_and_sex.html] allows it as follows:

    Narrated Abdullah bin Abi Ya’foor: I asked Abu Abdullah about approaching women thru their anus, he said: No Problem. He then recited: 2:223 Your women are as tilth unto you, so approach your tilth when (or how) ye will.”

    The [[Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani]] says that anal sex is permissible if the wife agrees, consenting but it is strongly undesirable (”makrooh”). [http://brentrasmussen.com/log/taxonomy/term/11], [http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/002816.html].

    ==Imam Malik View==
    In Sunni Islam [[Imam Malik]][http://www.tolueislam.com/Parwez/mh/mh_04.htm], along with Imam [[Bukhari]] [http://www.ourbeacon.com/truehistory.pdf] was convinced of [[Anal Sex]] being allowed and he himself practiced it also and Imam [[Shaafi]] was in favor of it. [[Haifz]] Ibn [[Hajr]] has also copied a dialogue of Imam Shaafi on this topic, with Imam [[Azam]]’s student named Imam [[Muhammad]]. In the Shia sect, Abu Abdullah allows it.

    In other reference, Imam Malik said that anal [[intercourse]] is [[Haraam|haram]] (prohibited), but enjoyment of the [[rear]] (anus: dubur) without [[penetration]] (eelaaj) is licit. [http://www.abc.se/~m9783/fiqhi/fiqha_e92.html]. It is lawful to place a finger on the anus as foreplay as long as it does not penetrate. [http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/sex/sex-oral.html].

    ==Quran Commentators View==

    There are enough authentications from both the commentators and Hadith for the existence of Anal Sex Hadith in Sahih Al-Bukhari. Imam Al-Bukhari recorded the following (see image below) interpretation of Sura 2:223. Ibn Umar the son of the third caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab allowed engaging in anal sex. This definitely explains why Ibn Abbas declares that Ibn Umar misunderstood the meaning of this specific text of Sura 2:223.[http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=2&tid=5921].

    ==Ibn Kathir View==
    The anal sex concept of [[Sahih Bukhari]] was denied later on by other scholars such as by “[[Ibn Kathir]]” in “[[Tafsir]] Ibn Kathir” – [[Quran]] Tafsir – “The Reason behind revealing Allah’s Statement Your Wives are a Tilth for You”.[http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=189&Itemid=36].

    However, [[Ibn Kathir]] admits that Muslims were circulating Ahadith which permitted anal sex and it is practiced by some Muslims [http://www.answers.com/topic/religion-and-sexuality] even basing them on the authority of Ibn Umar. [http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/Responses//Osama/women2a.htm].

    Some forbid anal-sex as an obligatory precaution.[http://english.bayynat.org.lb/Jurisprudence/sex.htm].

    ==Anal sex and [[Tafseer]] [[Tabari]]==
    Imam Tabari cites as:

    حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو قِلَابَةَ قَالَ : ثنا عَبْد الصَّمَد , قَالَ : ثني أَبِي , عَنْ أَيُّوب , عَنْ نَافِع , عَنْ ابْن عُمَر : { فَأْتُوا حَرْثكُمْ أَنَّى شِئْتُمْ } قَالَ : فِي الدُّبُر

    Hadith No. 3468 .[http://quran.al-islam.com/Tafseer/DispTafsser.asp?nType=1&bm=&nSeg=0&l=arb&nSora=2&nAya=223&taf=TABARY&tashkeel=0]

    Translation of Arabic Text: It was narrated by Abu Kilaba, narrated by Abdel Samad, who said that it was narrated by his father who narrated from Ayub, narrated from Nafi’, narrated by Ibn Umar who said that (Sura 2:223), ‘Your wives are as a tilth unto you: so approach your tilth when or how you will,’ WAS REGARDING THE ANUS (i.e., penetrating in the ANUS).

    ==Anal Sex and Sahih Bukhari==

    In Sahih Bukhari Hadith & Urdu translation of the Hadith by renowned Ahle Hadith scholar Waheed-uz-Zaman, it is clearly written in bracket, that is, “in Anus” , in Arabic, “ فِي الدُّبُر ”.

    [[Image:Interpretation of Holy Quran Verse by Sahih Bukhari Hadith.JPG|400px|thumb|right|Interpretation of Holy Quran Verse by Sahih Bukhari Hadith & Urdu translation of the Hadith by renowned Ahle Hadith scholar Waheed-uz-Zaman, it is clearly written in bracket, that is, “in Anus” , in Arabic, “ فِي الدُّبُر ”.]]

    ”’This concept is misunderstood and most information available is misleading that Islam allows such an act whereas the following Hadith of Abdullah Ibn Abbas confirms that the Anal Hadith in Bukhari is true, so misunderstanding was tried to resolve.”’

    Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:

    Ibn Umar misunderstood (the Qur’anic verse, “So come to your tilth however you will”)–may Allah forgive him. The fact is that this clan of the Ansar, who were idolaters, lived in the company of the Jews who were the people of the Book. They (the Ansar) accepted their superiority over themselves in respect of knowledge, and they followed most of their actions. The people of the Book (i.e. the Jews) used to have intercourse with their women on one side alone (i.e. lying on their backs). This was the most concealing position for (the vagina of) the women. This clan of the Ansar adopted this practice from them. But this tribe of the Quraysh used to uncover their women completely, and seek pleasure with them from in front and behind and laying them on their backs.

    When the muhajirun (the immigrants) came to Medina, a man married a woman of the Ansar. He began to do the same kind of action with her, but she disliked it, and said to him: We were approached on one side (i.e. lying on the back); do it so, otherwise keep away from me. This matter of theirs spread widely, and it reached the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him).

    So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: “Your wives are a tilth to you, so come to your tilth however you will,” i.e. from in front, from behind or lying on the back. But this verse meant the place of the delivery of the child, i.e. the vagina.

    ”’also”’

    Narrated AbuHurayrah:

    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: He who has intercourse with his wife through her anus is accursed.

    ==Anal Sex and Tafseer of Sahih Bukhari Hadith==

    [[Image: Anal_Sex_%26_Islam_Hadith_Tafseer.GIF|thumb|right|In Bukhari Hadith Tafseer, it is clearly written “in Anus” , in Arabic, “ فِي الدُّبُر ”.]]

    ”’ Image: Urdu translation of Anal Sex and Tafseer of Sahih Bukhari Hadith. It is clearly written “in Anus” , in Arabic, “ فِي الدُّبُر ”. ”’

    ==Anal sex and Hanafi sect==

    For the Hanafi view, read the [[Arabic]] Text, the [[English language|English]] [[translation]] & the image in Arabic and [[Urdu]] below:

    The Arabic Text:

    وفي المغني ج7ص225 : ( ورويت إباحته عن ابن عمر وزيد بن أسلم ونافع ومالك ، وروي عن مالك أنه قال : ما أدركت أحد أقتدي به في ديني يشك في أنه حلال . وأهل العراق من أصحاب مالك ينكرون ذلك واحتج من أجله بقول الله عز وجل {نِسَاؤُكُمْ حَرْثٌ لَكُمْ فَأْتُوا حَرْثَكُمْ أَنَّى شِئْتُمْ}(البقرة/223) وقوله سبحانه {وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ لِفُرُوجِهِمْ حَافِظُونَ إِلاَّ عَلَى أَزْوَاجِهِمْ أوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُهُمْ فَإِنَّهُمْ غَيْرُ مَلُومِينَ}(المؤمنون/5-6) ) .

    [http://truemuslim.9.forumer.com/index.php?s=46069e7a4ef97cfde0c74f8497913d43&showtopic=772].

    The English translation of the Arabic text and image is as:

    The permissibility was narrated on Ibn Omar , Zaid Ibn Aslam and Nafi’i and Malik : and It’s been narrated on Malik that He said : I never spoke to someone I deem a role model in religion who doubts that it’s halal. (Sunni Book [[Al-Mughni]] By [[Ibn Kudadma]]). [http://truemuslim.9.forumer.com/index.php?s=46069e7a4ef97cfde0c74f8497913d43&showtopic=772].

    [[Image:Anal_Sex_and_Hanafi_Sect.JPG|thumb|right|Anal Sex and Hanafi Sect, in Arabic & Urdu translation. It is clearly written “in Anus” , in Arabic, “ فِي الدُّبُر ”.]]

    ”’ Image: Anal Sex and Hanafi Sect, in Arabic & Urdu translation. It is clearly written “in Anus” , in Arabic, “ فِي الدُّبُر ”. ”’

    ==See also==
    [[Shabbir Ahmed (writer)]]

    [[Oral sex in Islamic law]]

    ==External links==

    *[http://www.al-islam.org/m_morals/chap3b.htm The Islamic Sexual Morality (2) Its Structure]

    *[http://understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=262 Narratives on the Prohibition of Anal Sex]

  24. 27 Abdul Qayyum
    March 17, 2008 at 9:03 am

    Dear Sir,
    I need to know Sholar’s, Imams (Sunny and Shia), Bukharies’s and Muslims confirm views on Oral Sex in Islam.
    Best regards,
    Abdul Qayyum
    qayyum_r@hotmail.com

  25. 28 aamir
    September 3, 2008 at 4:54 am

    salam

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    what islam said, please describe.
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